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Old 01-11-2017, 08:32 AM   #31
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If there isn't a maximum length why have a leash rule?
To keep the animal under some sort of control? It's not like somebody is going to put a dog on a 100 foot rope and think that it's properly leashed - dog owners know what "leash" means, even without a specified length.

National Parks generally have a 6 foot rule when they allow dogs at all (most of the trails prohibit them). I think that is more to discourage people from bringing dogs to NP's. No dog is going to be happy being on a 6 foot leash for an extended period.

I personally have no problem with a dog on a 20 foot tether in a campsite, but it should be under closer control when away from the site. Even when on the site it should not be able to get to the road or any path near the site. I don't have an issue with the retractable leashes as long as the owner knows how to use them properly.

I'm a bit worried about taking our best friend camping because he barks too much here at home. Like many dogs, he feels that he has to talk to anyone passing by the yard (he's friendly and loves people), and if he does that out camping, it would be unacceptable (not that it's acceptable here at home either - we do "counsel" him regularly, and bring him back inside when he gets too carried away).
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:23 AM   #32
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As previously mentioned it the people you are crammed next to that make the CG experience less-than-perfect.


The group in the next aisle singing until well past the 10:00 cutoff for such activities. Early the next morning (before 7:00), being woken up by the pre-teens getting out of their unit next door whining about having to use the CG showers....
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Old 01-11-2017, 01:14 PM   #33
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I'm familiar with that place. Whenever we're at Birds Hill, we always go there for breakfast on Saturdays, since it's so close to the campground. We've never experienced a wedding there, though, since we're always at the northern end of the campground, and far enough away from the place so we don't hear anything. Nice farmer's market during the summer too.

The place where I had the experience with the unleashed dogs and the strange park attendant was Black Lake Campground in Nopiming PP. Dealing with the park attendants and taking a look at the seasonal campsites there was almost like a scene out of Deliverance. Just needed a banjo. Beautiful campground at the end of 30 miles of bad road, otherwise.

We've actually done that. A few times we camped with some friends who had the next site over, and they had two dogs of their own. So we strung a line between two trees, tied the handle part of the leashes to the collars and clipped the other end on the line, so they could slide back and forth. Well, all three dogs liked to wrestle with each other, so you can imagine how long it took for the leashes to get tangled.
We had a situation at Opapiskaw this year where a family pulled in to a site in the bay behind us - after dark and they used their truck headlights to light up the site to set up tents. The bush is not very thick so it lit up my entire site as well.

They were very loud and very disorganized and very long in set up time but I realized that it was a mom and a dad with about 6 teenage kids and it appeared to be a "first" camping trip, so excitement and inexperiance on all fronts.
However the next night, it was radio blasting at full where we couldn't even talk at our fire pit without raised voices. Eventually the parkies sorted it out and all was well after....
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Old 01-11-2017, 05:23 PM   #34
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Pulled into the Valdosta GA Camping World campground to spend the night on our way to Florida Jan. 3. Pulled into spot, perfectly level, great!
I threw some stuff out of the compartment to put under the jacks and went to test the power.
About that time I hear my wife yell STOP!!!
Then I start hearing the sound of wires stretching, poles breaking, and her still screaming at this guy to stop.
Guy with a big fifth wheel had hooked an electric wire, broke a pole and it fell on another fifth wheel.

He had to work real hard it looked like to me to drive around a barricade and against some arrows on the pavement to get where he was.

I then went ahead and tested the power, there was none, I figured he knocked it all out.

Started talking to a few people and they had power, I just had a bad pedestal.

Some real nice people in a big Montana told me to park next to them, there was power there. So I took a walk to see how to get there. The guy who started all the trouble, well by the time I was ready to move someone had cleared the live wire, yes that's what I said, from his air conditioner and he'd moved to a parking spot and was completely blocking the road I needed to use.

So I backed out and ran through a campsite and took another road the wrong way to get where I needed to go while my wife carried all the stuff I'd unloaded to the new campsite, while holding our 95 pound labrador on a leash.

New site wasn't level, so had to drag out the anderson levelers. But real nice people next door. The neighbors at the other site I was going to use, it looked like they lived there year round in an old dilapidated trailer and were throwing back the natty lites at a pretty good clip, while the guy was trying to tell me he thought he could get the dead pedestal working for me if I'd just wait.

Then my new neighbor says "It's been a hell of a day here. First that guy (he points to an empty spot where a toyota truck was parked) apparently beat his wife, she called the cops, he left, and an ambulance came and carried her out in a blanket. then somehow while no one was looking the trailer disappeared but his truck is still there. Then you saw that guy break the power pole over the top of that abandoned trailer".

I said "Abandoned trailer?"

He says "Yeah, I've been coming here for 3 years and it was here the first time I came, it's got 2013 plates on it and no one's ever seen anyone in it."

Wow.

And of course we had the fire dept out there with lights flashing and then repair crews out the next morning with lights flashing. I just wanted a night's rest and I got it.
I must say that the Camping World of Valdosta has some real nice people there though, this is the second year they've let me stay there for free just for letting them renew my Good Sam membership with them. I'd stay there again but it won't be necessary since I'm leaving this trailer in Florida.
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Old 01-11-2017, 07:41 PM   #35
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We had a situation at Opapiskaw this year where a family pulled in to a site in the bay behind us - after dark and they used their truck headlights to light up the site to set up tents. The bush is not very thick so it lit up my entire site as well.
We camped at Opapiskaw once, and didn't like it. Not a bad experience, but I didn't like the way the sites were laid out. When we're in that region, we usually stay at Nutimik Lake.

Another place I have to shake my head at: A private campground on the shores of a large lake about 3 hours north of the city. We were camping with a group of people and someone suggested this place. There's nicer PP campgrounds around there that I'd rather go to and were closer, but what the heck.

Not a bad campground, nice amenities, large treed sites. But whoo boy, do they make you pay for it. Entry fee for the vehicle, fairly expensive site fees, pay for the firewood, pay to launch your boat. When we were leaving, there was a fee to dump your tanks. "Pay at the office," the sign said. I was already annoyed and I wasn't going to walk all that distance to pay even more money, so I just dumped and left. I understand this is a private park and a commercial business, but enough was enough. I can have a nicer experience at a government-run campground and get all of that stuff for free.
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I play guitar and sing... usually to myself and never loud or amplified. But sometimes I have other campers come and listen, and some bring instruments and voices and join in. At one CG in Central Texas we were kind of isolated. Closest was a motor home 3 sites down. I sat out at dusk and started playing and in 30 minutes had about 25 guests... and a couple of other musicians in the bunch. Many brought chairs and several kept the campfire going. We had one of those wonderful times that don't come around all that often. We were never loud in any way... and broke up about 11:00 PM. The motor-home occupants left the next morning and never said anything to us, but the management came by a few minutes later. They said they enjoyed our music, and were in the group...... but please don't do it again or we'll have to ask you to pack up and leave immediately.
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I'm a bit worried about taking our best friend camping because he barks too much here at home. Like many dogs, he feels that he has to talk to anyone passing by the yard (he's friendly and loves people), and if he does that out camping, it would be unacceptable (not that it's acceptable here at home either - we do "counsel" him regularly, and bring him back inside when he gets too carried away).
Mine barks at the door bell and strange people coming up to the door she does not know. Once she smells them she turns into a mush and usually wants to play with them. That said she goes to every campground I can legally take her. When the kids and adults start to cut through the site she goes on the 15 ft leash tied to the dog stake or table and I let her bark at them as they try to cut through. Other than the cut through people she does not bark.

That is the biggest issue I have with CG's and some people is the lack of courtesy or respect to the "site parameters". My wife will just say "hi what's your name?" and catch them off guard the first time. 50% of the time that works, but if not the dog goes in the middle to send the message the first day.
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I play guitar and sing... usually to myself and never loud or amplified. But sometimes I have other campers come and listen, and some bring instruments and voices and join in. At one CG in Central Texas we were kind of isolated. Closest was a motor home 3 sites down. I sat out at dusk and started playing and in 30 minutes had about 25 guests... and a couple of other musicians in the bunch. Many brought chairs and several kept the campfire going. We had one of those wonderful times that don't come around all that often. We were never loud in any way... and broke up about 11:00 PM. The motor-home occupants left the next morning and never said anything to us, but the management came by a few minutes later. They said they enjoyed our music, and were in the group...... but please don't do it again or we'll have to ask you to pack up and leave immediately.


So you were an example of the worst campsite experience for the motor home people perhaps lol. 25 people just having normal conversation at one or two sites together is not quiet let alone instruments and singing...
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