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08-19-2016, 10:51 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Auburn
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1st big boondocking trip.
Planning our first big trip to Arizona this winter. Trying to figure out what we'll need. Looking for tips on generators, blueboy capacity, 20 amp solar use...etc. any tips would be appreciated.
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2016 Jay Flight 24RBS
2004 Chevy 2500HD
120 watt portable solar
3kw inverter generator
Nualxy bluetooth/voltage meter
RVS camera system
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08-19-2016, 01:00 PM
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: Campbell Hall
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Two words: "Learning Curve" and its a big one!
Only you can determine what is correct for your crew's and RV's needs.
SWMBO and use very little electricity (a 1KW genset @ 45 mins/day is too much)
Lots of propane (cooking, refrigeration and heat)
Totally screw up on food (I buy enough to feed us. Then we go out or over to friends).
Water 20/20/5 was too small. 50/50/20 is too much.
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Whether you need A/C or not will determine the amount of genset you'll need. Do the kids have an electronics addiction?
Will you be running the heater at all? Them things use LOTS of propane very quickly.
How well trained is the crew at 'navy showers'? How many can wash themselves in less than a gallon of water?
How close (hours/days) are you to fresh water and/or dump station?
You are gong to have to determine how often you need to take on fresh water and dump waste water based on your crew's needs.
Several short trips locally to get a feel for your needs. Then we can help size up equipment. Anything short of that is guesswork and wasted money.
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08-19-2016, 01:07 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,036
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Where will you stay when you get here?; boondocking, RV park, campground, family member's home, will help determine utility hookups, conveniences, accessibility and so on.
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08-19-2016, 01:30 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Clearwater, FL area
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You will need on of these to monitor your battery... when it displays 12.0 Volts, it is time to turn everything that runs on 12VDC "OFF". Plug it into your 12VDC Accessory outlet inside the TT. Batteries can get very expensive to replace on a regular basis.
What is the Ah rating on your battery(s). !2volt battery or 2 6 volt batteries in series?
Don
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08-19-2016, 03:19 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Auburn
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We've been taking short mon/Thursday trips within a 25 mile radius. Planning a two week trip South Dakota fishing trip. About 1000 miles round trip.
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2016 Jay Flight 24RBS
2004 Chevy 2500HD
120 watt portable solar
3kw inverter generator
Nualxy bluetooth/voltage meter
RVS camera system
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08-19-2016, 03:24 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Auburn
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We're also relatively familiar with where we're headed: down by the Yuma proving grounds. Already know the distance and location of the dump sit, showers/ facilities. Choosing the boondock option lol. Access to facilities, no services. Being retired military we can use the base facilities for odds and ends.
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2016 Jay Flight 24RBS
2004 Chevy 2500HD
120 watt portable solar
3kw inverter generator
Nualxy bluetooth/voltage meter
RVS camera system
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08-19-2016, 03:25 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Auburn
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Down by the Yuma proving grounds. Familiar with the area. In laws used to winter over there. Got us interested.
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2016 Jay Flight 24RBS
2004 Chevy 2500HD
120 watt portable solar
3kw inverter generator
Nualxy bluetooth/voltage meter
RVS camera system
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08-19-2016, 03:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: PNW
Posts: 5,195
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill&Deb
We're also relatively familiar with where we're headed: down by the Yuma proving grounds. Already know the distance and location of the dump sit, showers/ facilities. Choosing the boondock option lol. Access to facilities, no services. Being retired military we can use the base facilities for odds and ends.
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I've passed by that area, I believe, on the way to the Imperial Dam LTVA camping area.
I suggest getting a waste tote that can handle most, if not all of the liquid from either the gray or black tank. I have 32 gallon gray/black tanks and have a 30 gallon tote. Think about how you will refill your fresh water tanks on the trailer. Some use expandable bladders that could fill your tank in one trip. I use four 6 gallon water jugs, and make a few trips when it's time to top off the tanks.
If you're using your batteries much at all, get at least a 2000kw generator, and if you need to use your air conditioner, you'll need a larger unit than that. I typically run my generator 4 hours more or less a day for just using lights, television (using a small 800 watt inverter), and charging computer/phones. If you don't get your batteries close to a full charge daily, their life will be drastically reduced.
Instead of investing in a generator, consider going with solar panels. You'll get plenty of sun down there to handle most anything, except air conditioning-unless you get lots of panels and many batteries. Lots of solar related threads here that would help you figure out what you need in that department.
Learn to strictly conserve your water, both the use of fresh and the way you manage your waste water. Doing that will help cut back on the number of trips you take both refilling fresh and dumping waste. I've boondocked the Quartzsite LTVA a few seasons, plus spent a little time at Imperial Dam.
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2011 Dodge Ram 1500 HEMI Quad Cab
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08-20-2016, 06:11 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Saskatoon Sask Canada
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Be aware cell phone coverage in that are is iffy at best.. I have looked at it several times but lack of signal has kept me out of there..
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Seann
2004 Chev Silverado Duramax optioned past the max. 2009 Jayco Eagle 308 RLS 900watts of solar, Lithium batteries (400amp hour), 2000 watt (4000 surge) whole house inverter.
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08-27-2016, 08:21 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: kaml
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I spent some time north of there last winter. There's a dump station in Quartzsite. Depending on how long you are going to be down there you could look into the LaPosa LTVA just south of Quartzsite, it has onsite dump station & water. We were @ Hi Jolly for a week then back in the area later in the winter for a week @ Plomosa. Not much of anything down in the Yuma PG area.
Lots of good boondocking in the Quartzsite area. Last winter I ran with 4x 6v & 1kw gen. This winter I plan to have it supplemented with ~300w of solar. Our stay limit is the black tank, usually for 2 of us it's 10-12days. We'll be back thru there again this winter.
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08-27-2016, 10:22 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Saskatoon Sask Canada
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Blueboy.. get one that is larger than your blackwater tank.. nothing worse than overfilling a BB.
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Seann
2004 Chev Silverado Duramax optioned past the max. 2009 Jayco Eagle 308 RLS 900watts of solar, Lithium batteries (400amp hour), 2000 watt (4000 surge) whole house inverter.
145days /2023 2022/151 2021[/COLOR]
93/2020,157/2019219/2018 206/2017,215/2016, 211/2015, 196/14, 247/13, 193/12
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08-27-2016, 11:41 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 968
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seann45
Blueboy.. get one that is larger than your blackwater tank.. nothing worse than overfilling a BB.
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When I think of BlueBoy, I think of Big John Cannon's son from the High Chaparral. Getting one that is larger would require you to head over to the Ponderosa and get Ben Cartwright's son, Hoss.
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09-22-2016, 09:44 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Colorado
Posts: 282
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seann45
Be aware cell phone coverage in that are is iffy at best.. I have looked at it several times but lack of signal has kept me out of there..
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Isn't that the whole point in getting out? If people would just learn to shut off their phones, and actually disconnect for a while, they would figure out that the world keeps on spinning, the sun keeps coming up and life goes on without them. Nobody needs to be online 24/7. I was 35-40 years old before I got my first cell phone. I shut it off every night and most weekends. It's never on when camping. It truly isn't a required for survival.
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2009 Silverado 2500HD Duramax/Allison
2014 Heartland Sundance XLT 245RL
His and Hers Polaris 570 Touring ATV's
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09-22-2016, 10:32 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Rio Rancho
Posts: 426
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Our method is Boondock only:
45 gal Blue boy
45 gal Expandable water bladder
6-6 gal blue water jugs
Oreion Sand Reeper to pull the above
Sesimic 4212 Has:
145 gal fresh water tanks
2-45 gal black
2-45 gal Grey
5500 watt genie
480 watts Solar
6-12 volt AGMs
We Boondock before plugging in anytime
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09-23-2016, 07:11 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Saskatoon Sask Canada
Posts: 10,726
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobx2
Isn't that the whole point in getting out? If people would just learn to shut off their phones, and actually disconnect for a while, they would figure out that the world keeps on spinning, the sun keeps coming up and life goes on without them. Nobody needs to be online 24/7. I was 35-40 years old before I got my first cell phone. I shut it off every night and most weekends. It's never on when camping. It truly isn't a required for survival.
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I use it for my internet connection to pay bills and check on the house. I don't really care for coffee shop hotspots most are very insecure..
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Seann
2004 Chev Silverado Duramax optioned past the max. 2009 Jayco Eagle 308 RLS 900watts of solar, Lithium batteries (400amp hour), 2000 watt (4000 surge) whole house inverter.
145days /2023 2022/151 2021[/COLOR]
93/2020,157/2019219/2018 206/2017,215/2016, 211/2015, 196/14, 247/13, 193/12
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10-27-2016, 02:06 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 19
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Just finished mounting a second 12 volt battery/w box. Going to wire them parallel for extra capacity.
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2016 Jay Flight 24RBS
2004 Chevy 2500HD
120 watt portable solar
3kw inverter generator
Nualxy bluetooth/voltage meter
RVS camera system
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10-27-2016, 11:43 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Secret Cove
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Is this the right place to ask if anyone else bought a 2017 Jayflight 212 Baja?
Thanks, Dave.
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"If you can't be smart; be stubborn.". DG.
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10-28-2016, 12:49 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Surprise
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Know that Phoenix, hit 100 today...Yuma I would expect to be a tad warmer. Depending on when your coming down, you may want AC...Are you planning on an extended stay or ?
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10-28-2016, 07:00 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 19
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We're planning on hanging north until around the end of November then heading for the Yuma area for the winter.
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2016 Jay Flight 24RBS
2004 Chevy 2500HD
120 watt portable solar
3kw inverter generator
Nualxy bluetooth/voltage meter
RVS camera system
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10-28-2016, 07:34 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Clearwater, FL area
Posts: 5,196
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill&Deb
Just finished mounting a second 12 volt battery/w box. Going to wire them parallel for extra capacity.
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Not sure as to how you wired them in parallel... but here is the correct way to wire them to better control the charging and discharging of the 2 batteries. Ignore the battery cutoff switch if you are not installing one.
Don
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