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Old 12-13-2014, 09:43 PM   #1
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Weight on TT Tongue

Has anyone seen a limit for weight added onto the trailer tongue?

A little early, but when we do receive our Jay Flight 27RLS I plan to set it up for comfortable boondocking. That will probably mean adding batteries. I'm thinking WORST CASE for our trailer would be four 6volt or 12volt batteries in an aluminum storage box between the propane tanks and the trailer front - maybe 200 lbs. more than the usual, single, battery.

I've never seen this issue mentioned in any forum, but I've seen photos of a lot of storage boxes mounted there with lots of batteries, generators, etc.
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Old 12-13-2014, 11:25 PM   #2
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I'm new to this but wonder about that myself as I'm towing with 1/2 ton. I plan on putting my heavier stuff in the back to offset weight up front. From reading you can really only tell with a scale, there's a way to use a board to give a % of weight to make it so you can use a bathroom scale I just can't recall the details.

You may look into using batteries in the back, as those are very heavy, some guys have done this and hopefully will chime in. There is a risk on lead/acid on off gas and the acid itself, so consideration should be taken for that.

Oh looks like you have a serious TV.
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Old 12-14-2014, 05:53 AM   #3
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I'm planning on a 275 lb gen. going on the tongue of my Octane 273. And 4 6v batteries in the storage compartment right behind the tongue. I hope the answers you get to your question are "dont worry about it, you'll be fine"
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Old 12-14-2014, 09:02 AM   #4
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I have 6-6volt batteries on the tongue.. I called Jayco about this before I did it and they said it was OK just don't weld to the frame as it will "damage" the heat treating. I wanted to put the batteries in a box the way you are talking about but found there was not enough room to do this.
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Old 12-14-2014, 09:38 AM   #5
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As mentioned, confirm with Jayco that there aren't any A-frame limitations with your particular model TT.

At the end of the day, ideally you want to have a 13% to 15% loaded tongue weight range (of TT gross loaded weight) for ideal TV handling of the TT....., may take a visit to a CAT scale.

CAT scale how-to: http://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3871

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... have not seen one for "weight added". There should be a sticker on the A-Frame with the total weight allowed, or it could be stamped into the frame. What you could safely add would be that rating, less what you already have.

Edit: I went outside and checked our X23B. It's stamped into the top of the frame in front of the jack. (I remember one from some years ago that was stamped on the side - also up front.) Mine has a max allowable tongue weight rating of 1,500 lbs, which would far exceed what I could safely tow with. BTW, there is an allowable gross weight limit stamped there too.

I think in most cases the trailer tongue will be able to take the extra weight, but as Rustic Eagle mentions above, keep your tongue weight within the safe towing range.
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... It's stamped into the top of the frame in front of the jack. (I remember one from some years ago that was stamped on the side - also up front.) Mine has a max allowable tongue weight rating of 1,500 lbs, which would far exceed what I could safely tow with. BTW, there is an allowable gross weight limit stamped there too.
Thanks! I've towed many trailers, but never noticed that! I'll look for it when I have my new trailer.

As suggested, I'll also check with Jayco when my plans are more concrete but before I mount stuff on the A-frame.
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Mine has a tray from the factory welded underneath the LPG tanks that has room for at least 4-maybe 6 batteries. Plus the one on the tounge. I asked at delivery and they stated for extra batteries with no mention of weight limit.

This is a pic I found on the www, not mine, but it's the same rack.

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If that is a battery rack it is going to be a real job to check the water in the batteries every month.
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I never check battery level. Leave disconnected between trips and we go somewhere every month for a week or less. And only do minimal dry docking so only have main battery now. I've had no issues with the led lights and I keep radio disconnected all the time as we never use it. Run one 2000i couple hours in morning and evening....unless summer...then two non-stop.
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I think that cross piece in that picture is for power stabilizers. It also has one in the rear and it has the small doors for the switches. I really don't think it is a battery rack.
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No..it's a battery tray. I'm installing 4 blue tops today getting ready for really cold weather boondocking. Also big invertor. You can see my elect stabilizers behind it.
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No..it's a battery tray. I'm installing 4 blue tops today getting ready for really cold weather boondocking. Also big invertor. You can see my elect stabilizers behind it.
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Maybe it's me, or the angle, but I totally can't see that tray in the first pic.

I really like it though! That's a nice way to keep things buttoned up and out of the way.
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