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Old 11-10-2015, 07:51 AM   #11
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I like the idea of rending a C for a short trip or two. See how it goes. I know my kids would love bouncing around an open coach while traveling. Me on the other hand would get distracted having someone walking around while driving down the highway. Sounds like a trip to the ER if I had to swerve...

I've never done it, but does anyone get car sick trying to use the bathroom in a moving vehicle?
We stay buckled in when driving in the Greyhawk except for brief intervals when getting a snack or using the bathroom. Neither myself, DW nor grandkids have ever been car sick in the RV.

The grandkids really love being able to play games at the dinette while traveling. Having them occupied makes it much nicer.


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Old 11-10-2015, 08:42 AM   #12
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I camped with my father and mother-in-law for a number of years in a Class A and then later in a C, as well as in a truck camper and our fifth-wheels. I'm not sure there is more storage space in comparably sized Cs to fifth-wheels. I have a fifth-wheel now and thought about going to a class C a few years ago when FIL was getting rid of his, but decided that since we generally take our boat along with us, we would have to have two vehicles anyway, the class C and another vehicle to sightsee and put the boat into and take it out of the lake, so we were simplifying our life at all. If you buy a rig large enough to be comfortable in, the ability to get "out and around" will be somewhat limited unless you bring along a toad, an additional cost. As you can tell, I am a fifth-wheel fan, and at my age, probably won't change since I won't be doing this for a longer time, whether with a fifth-wheel or a motorhome. You need to make your decision as to what you really "need" rather than what you want. If you don't ever get "out and around", then a MH is probably the way to go.

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Old 11-10-2015, 09:17 AM   #13
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My choice would be the 5th wheel. You have the tow vehicle, do not need to haul around another car to use once set up, and the truck could, if wante3d, be used as a daily driver and haul "stuff" when nee3ded. When NOT camping, what would the motorhome be used for ? If we ever upgrade, doubtful, I would go with a 5th wheel again. We like our Jay Flight but, the 5er we had was much easier to tow. Good luck with your choice whatever it may be.
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Old 11-10-2015, 09:55 AM   #14
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We considered a MH briefly, but ultimately decided to stay with a towable simply to have one less motorized vehicle to maintain. For a MH to be useful you need a tow a car with it too, so now your combination has two engines, tranmissions, radiators, etc to worry about. Plus it was much easier to let economics influence the decision since towables are much less expensive. Should we not need the truck bed to haul dogs and stuff we would have gone with a 5r, I am sure that will come in the future when the need for an open truck bed is reduced as kids grow and move on.
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:26 AM   #15
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The bride and I briefly went through this decision process when we were trading up from the X23B. Obviously we went with a 5th.
For us the tipping points were the need for a toad, the MH is big truck that only does one thing (transports the MH) and the space for engine and front cab is lost storage and living area.
It is also obvious from the other posts that some folks have gone from a 5th to a MH and are completely satisfied.
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Old 11-10-2015, 12:34 PM   #16
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Having a 5th wheel makes you wonder how the other half lives and the setiment is probably the same from the other side of the argument.

What I like:

Space inside
Outdoor kitchen
basement storage
ability to disconnect from living qtrs
no addition engine maintenance

What I would like.
Access to food while traveling
more cabin space while on the road.

I would not let my kids unbuckle to use the bathroom while underway. Nor would I like them sitting in an unbuckled seat while traveling.

Bathroom stops on the outbound are fast since it's a quick in and out of my 2 accessible heads. Takes longer to walk the dog than the kids to go. Food stops do require a bump out of a slide to get to the fridge, but again it's pretty quick. Inbound we use public restrooms as the time between trips is somewhat longer and I am not a fan of keeping my black tank full with waste for storing. That would still require me to stop for potty stops.

I have seen folks struggle with the toads and with leveling a larger unit without some type of ground control. Same is true of some trailers, but it's a lot easier with legs to get front to back that 2 axles.

I will just close with saying that the roads are dangerous and while many of us survived our childhoods of being in the back seats or sometimes trunks(station wagon) without seatbelts. I would not even think of it today. Antime an accident can occur and the 3 or so minutes it takes to duck in a rest stop is just not worth the savings in time still traveling. In the end I like my setup, but as mentioned it's a personal preference and we could all make arguments equal in both directions.

The rental idea sounds like a winner since you are already invested in a 5'er. Try it out for a long weekend or one of your planned trips.

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Old 11-10-2015, 01:06 PM   #17
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I retired almost two years ago and in the interim earned my Certified RV Service Specialist and RV Inspector designations. My wife and I plan to travel around the U.S. and do some overseas traveling as well.

I really like 5th wheels, but I don't plan to stay in a specific location for an extended period of time, except occasionally, and don't want to be stuck with a truck for long distance travels. I have thought about a semi hauler, but I end up with a smart car or renting a car.

So, it comes down to a new Seneca Super C or a used high end Class A. The high end used Class A can be had for about half price of a new Seneca, so the probability is something along the line of a used Newmar Mountain Aire or slightly newer Dutch Star with Comfort Drive. The price then allows some flexibility to upgrade the dp, cover a lot of local and international travel costs, and pull an SUV around.

I would say it is about 85% decided, but the wife and I will rent, I will visit the factories, and then we will see. An air ride, air leveling, pulling an SUV, and a high quality interior has its draw. This is especially so as if the chassis is in good shape and there is no water damage, then all is possible with a used dp, in particular if the prospective buyer has good repair and inspection skills, and brings a few additional pros into help as well, like a diesel mechanic and chassis specific experts.
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:38 PM   #18
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We found a 29.5 BHDS to look at on Saturday and went and test drove a 31 FS tonight.

I was hoping that looking at them would make it a easier decision, and in the end, I think it might have.

The fifth wheel felt a little smaller than it looks, but feels like it will work for us. It is somewhat similar to the one we have now, but the bigger bunks with higher weight capacity Few little things that I don't like, but I think we can make changes to deal with all of that. I wish they offered this plan in the regular Eagle line, but seems like shorter bunk houses are only offered in the lower price units, just the market, I guess. Even though, feels much better than our current rig from a quality standpoint. Just really leary of the low cargo carrying capacity of the unit. Now for the important part: wife loves the outside kitchen and big awning! I'm wondering about adding an invertor to run the outside fridge, but I'll worry about that later.

The 31FS test drive left me feeling very underwhelmed. Everything about looking at it just seemed "blah" to me. It's a nice looking rig, but it seemed like beyond the kitchen, everything else was a sacrifice. Small bunks (vs growing kids), a short queen (vs my 6'-2" frame), storage that would be scattered, no easy way to add a second battery, lack of outside storage, lack of outside kitchen and very short awning. Even the drive was "blah". Maybe I am spoiled with my 15 F-350 6.7 lariat, but the ride, handling, noise and power were just blah. I enjoy driving with my truck, with the test drive, not so much. The unit had the rear vibration too. Who ever would have thought a diesel would seem quiet compared to a gasser? The only good thing I can see about it is the ability to quickly get snacks use the restroom, but I'm not seeing enough to offset the "blah" of it...... I can't seem to shake the feeling that this could be a $20,000 mistake.

Even the kids are torn. They really want the Class C for travel comforts, but both of them like the beds in the 5'er, not that they get to make the decision, but I like getting their input.

In the end, I think we'll be going 5'er, but need to sit down and decide with the wife. We've survived 9 years with a 5'er already, so continuing on shouldn't be too difficult.

Thanks for the input, it helped with the looking process!
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Old 11-20-2015, 08:15 AM   #19
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My wife and I just went through this. We had our old bunk house fifth wheel for eleven years. Now the kids are older we were entertaining the idea of moving to a MH. We looked and looked and compared and just didn't get the same "feel" from the motor homes. I am also a "truck guy" at home and we didn't want to buy a toad. The MH floor plans didn't appeal to us (at least right now....not ruling one out down the road!) I need to stop every once in a while to stretch the legs any way so this gives passengers a chance to stretch and use bathroom at the same time. I have been able to put my Fifth wheel any where a comparable sized MH can so parking is not an issue. We decided we are still 5er people !
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Old 11-22-2015, 06:17 PM   #20
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My wife and I had a 32' 5th wheel for a couple of years. When we retired, we wanted a new camper. We went back and forth the same way you are. We decided on a the 2015 Grayhawk DS. There are several differences between the two but you learn to live with them. We went on a 22 day trip to the Grand Canyon and Yellowstone with our two 15 yr old grandkids. It got tight a couple of times but good for the most part. Parking, setting up the new coach, getting gas, and stopping anywhere is so my easier than the 5th wheel was. Potty breaks and snack breaks while in motion are a major plus. We just park and take the toad on day trips. It sure gets a lot better gas mileage that my F350. I just kept it to use around the house.

Good luck with your decision.


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