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Old 06-25-2015, 07:37 AM   #81
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Just wondering where your camping that you can allow shower water to drain on the ground? Every campground I have been too has never allowed water to drain on the ground? I can only imagine after the first 80 or 90 showers what the ground/grass/mud would be like? How polluted the ground would become with soap etc..

I know each of us feel the little I leave behind won't harm anything, but, when the typical campground is full for 3 to 6 months a year, one piece of trash the size of a dime left by each camper, becomes a mound of trash.
Just my opinion, but I try to leave any camp sight I use to be cleaner when I leave then when I arrive.

I've never used it for outdoor showers myself, but I could see these showers being of the "navy" variety. I don't imagine people are running it for 5-10 minutes straight, since the shower stand is so close to the ground. You are not going to stand under it while water pours down.

Also, I assume that people are doing this on hot days when the water will evaporate quickly. Also I assume people are using bio-friendly unscented soaps.

But maybe I just assume too much of people. I am from Canada after all
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Old 06-25-2015, 08:10 AM   #82
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Just wondering where your camping that you can allow shower water to drain on the ground? Every campground I have been too has never allowed water to drain on the ground? I can only imagine after the first 80 or 90 showers what the ground/grass/mud would be like? How polluted the ground would become with soap etc..

I know each of us feel the little I leave behind won't harm anything, but, when the typical campground is full for 3 to 6 months a year, one piece of trash the size of a dime left by each camper, becomes a mound of trash.
Just my opinion, but I try to leave any camp sight I use to be cleaner when I leave then when I arrive.
I see where you are coming from. When my son was in Boy Scouts I went through Leave No Trace training with the boys.

Unfortunately, 1,000+ families using 6 or 7 acres over 3 months does a hellova lot of damage to that area unless every single person was totally mindful of ALL the waste they create and direct it in the least impactful way possible.

Where do we go from here? Start caning litterbugs, like Singapore? Public education hasn't worked. Consider all waste as if it is industrial pollution?

The two of us boondock 2-3 times a year on a 7.5 acre parcel more than 300' from the nearest body of water. Our outdoor shower use will never be a problem.

So where do we draw the line on outdoor soap usage? What if the campground's storm water is processed the by the same plant as the sewer water? What if we require all soap and shampoos to be biodegradable within a short period of time.
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Old 06-25-2015, 07:39 PM   #83
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We have one like others have said, it is for the kids and the dog. But when you do install one, be sure to add a separate valve for hot/cold on the inside so that you can isolate it if it breaks or freezes.
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Also, I have installed a hose bib near the Sewer hose connection to wash out the Sewer hose which works well, and serves as another low point drain.
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Old 06-25-2015, 08:29 PM   #85
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I see where you are coming from. When my son was in Boy Scouts I went through Leave No Trace training with the boys.

Unfortunately, 1,000+ families using 6 or 7 acres over 3 months does a hellova lot of damage to that area unless every single person was totally mindful of ALL the waste they create and direct it in the least impactful way possible.

Where do we go from here? Start caning litterbugs, like Singapore? Public education hasn't worked. Consider all waste as if it is industrial pollution?

The two of us boondock 2-3 times a year on a 7.5 acre parcel more than 300' from the nearest body of water. Our outdoor shower use will never be a problem.

So where do we draw the line on outdoor soap usage? What if the campground's storm water is processed the by the same plant as the sewer water? What if we require all soap and shampoos to be biodegradable within a short period of time.
If your on your own parcel of land, rarely used, probably not an issue. If your in a campground, huge issue. And I know of no sewer plant that also handles storm water, as it would be very expensive and irresponsible. Even if soap is biodegradable, it will take a period of time to degrade, meanwhile, someone is camping in your shower waste.
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Old 06-26-2015, 06:56 AM   #86
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If your on your own parcel of land, rarely used, probably not an issue. If your in a campground, huge issue. And I know of no sewer plant that also handles storm water, as it would be very expensive and irresponsible. Even if soap is biodegradable, it will take a period of time to degrade, meanwhile, someone is camping in your shower waste.
I totally agree. I was throwing that out as another imperfect solution.

But the question still stands, "What can we as campers do to lessen or, hopefully, eliminate our long-term impact on the places we camp?"

Outside showers are just one part of a much bigger problem of discarded trash, dumped grey water, irresponsible fires... The list is pretty long.
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I just cleaned the mold out of my outside shower compartment. Seems to like that spot..
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Yeah, they seem to collect mold very quick. I try to dry mine out before closing it up but it still has black-spotted mold on it.

It seems to me, they could put a little more effort into making the outside shower a little beefier. They seem so flimsy, like you could break it if you dropped it. THe shut-off valve on the head itself is pretty cheap as well.
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We do competition BBQ so ours gets used for rinsing dishes and other clean up chores.
This has been an educational thread as I've picked up a few ideas of things to change on mine.
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I was afraid of filling up the grey tank showering in the camper, so we took "bathing suit" showers each evening using the outdoor shower. Easy to get a jug and put water in the tank if we were to run low, but a pain in the butt if the grey tank fills up to soon.
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Put a pump bottle soap in with it
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Dog wash when he's been swimming
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