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Old 01-27-2016, 06:33 PM   #1
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Does anyone know what is meant by Canadian Standards which is listed as an option on the Eagle? I'm going to assume it has to do with insulation.

Also, what has been your experience with the Maxxis 8008 tire upgrade? Is it worth the more than $500 cost? Are they worth that much more than the original tires?

Lots of questions, I know, but I haven't been able to find answers on the website.
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Old 01-27-2016, 06:54 PM   #2
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There are some subtle differences in the elec and plumbing codes. Nothing to do with insulation.
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Does anyone know what is meant by Canadian Standards which is listed as an option on the Eagle? I'm going to assume it has to do with insulation. No, not insulation. It has more to do with safety (location of the fire extinguisher), propane, tongue load, etc. Some searching on the internet will reveal all the details. If a unit is to be sold/bought in Canada, it must comply with Canadian Standards. Just towing in or through Canada it is not required.
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I can't help with your other questions, sorry.
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I tried to order Canadian standard on my trailer in 2013 and was told it was not an available option on US bound trailers.

I understand it it mostly due to electrical codes.
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Agree with the other posters. It is built to Canadian plumbing/ electrical codes.
Nothing to do with weather.
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Old 01-27-2016, 08:29 PM   #6
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I tried to order Canadian standard on my trailer in 2013 and was told it was not an available option on US bound trailers.

I understand it it mostly due to electrical codes.
I purchased my first trailer new in Northern California, it came with candian standards, including the maple leaf flag sticker near the front door. After I removed the sticker I asked what that was all about. The dealership told me they order it on all stock units, this is California mind you, since they sell so many new units to snowbirds heading north and south through the state.

I'm not sure why your dealership said it wasn't available, I can assure you in 2012 it certainly was in Northern California.

I never learned what the actual code difference were, appearantly is was more than USA requires not different since mine met both specifications.
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Old 01-27-2016, 08:47 PM   #7
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My 2016 was built with the Canadian Standards option. I asked the Jayco rep what was different, he told me it was the propane system had a few different fittings, electrical system could not use any aluminum wire and grounding was different, plumbing drains used a different type of PVC pipe. Nothing of any benefit for USA users but if the unit was imported into Canada it must meet the standards or it won't be licensed or issued a title.
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Google knows all...it is the additional charges for a CSA (Canadian Standards Association) inspection/authorization similar to UL (Underwriters Labs).

"CSA stands for Canadian Standards Association. Originally they were responsible for establishing norms in the Canadian market. UL stands for Underwriters Laboratory, and they used to be responsible for establishing the norms for the US market"

From another forum:
"The Canadian standards option is only for units sold in Canada. I made an enquiry of Jayco and received the following reply noting 4 items. 1. plumbing drain lines made of different type of plastic and use a different type of glue (yellow verses black), 2. extra ground wire on power bathroom vent and on range hood, ground wire used in ROMEX (120 volt wiring) is a gauge lighter on CSA units and 4. wire looms and propane lines may be routed differently."

http://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f1...oval-5645.html
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Google knows all...it is the additional charges for a CSA (Canadian Standards Association) inspection/authorization similar to UL (Underwriters Labs).

"CSA stands for Canadian Standards Association. Originally they were responsible for establishing norms in the Canadian market. UL stands for Underwriters Laboratory, and they used to be responsible for establishing the norms for the US market"

From another forum:
"The Canadian standards option is only for units sold in Canada. I made an enquiry of Jayco and received the following reply noting 4 items. 1. plumbing drain lines made of different type of plastic and use a different type of glue (yellow verses black), 2. extra ground wire on power bathroom vent and on range hood, ground wire used in ROMEX (120 volt wiring) is a gauge lighter on CSA units and 4. wire looms and propane lines may be routed differently."

http://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f1...oval-5645.html
CSA is also called CUL. I don't know if they officially changed the name or not and CSA might still appear on some products, but CSA/CUL is the Canadian version of UL in the U.S.A.
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Old 01-28-2016, 09:19 AM   #10
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Thanks to all of you for the information. It is exactly what I was looking for. This forum is really informative. I appreciate all of you taking your time to answer my question.
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Old 01-28-2016, 10:15 AM   #11
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Does anyone know what is meant by Canadian Standards which is listed as an option on the Eagle? I'm going to assume it has to do with insulation.

Also, what has been your experience with the Maxxis 8008 tire upgrade? Is it worth the more than $500 cost? Are they worth that much more than the original tires?

Lots of questions, I know, but I haven't been able to find answers on the website.
I ordered my Eagle 5er with the Maxxis tires option. This option includes upgraded wheels too. Reading many threads on this subject swayed me to order with the available option. After all tires are right on top for safety.
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CSA is also called CUL. I don't know if they officially changed the name or not and CSA might still appear on some products, but CSA/CUL is the Canadian version of UL in the U.S.A.
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CSA and UL are separate bodies that have mutual agreements on certification. Devices/Products can be labelled as CSA and/or ULC (Underwriters Laboratories of Canada). cUL certification indicates that the device complies with the Canadian Electrical Code as tested by UL.

In general, when shopping in Canada if you don't see one of the CSA/ULC symbols, you know it is grey (er gray) market stuff, including improper imports from the United States (generally just marked UL).


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The Presidents of CSA Group and UL signed an Agreement on Acceptance of Components and a Memorandum of Understanding.

The Memorandum of Understanding agreement between the two organizations simplifies the process for electrical industry customers desiring both CSA and UL marks obtain dual CSA and UL certification through a single test program.

That means if someone requires CSA or UL, in fact he requires the product to follow certain norms/standards. According to above explanation this can be approved by the "Canadian Standards Association" (CSA) or by the "Underwriters Laboratories Inc." (UL). To indicate a product being approved by UL for the compliance with the "Canadian Electrical Code" the product is
marked cUL.


This is primarily for electrical devices. There are several areas of overlap between the two bodies, but CSA does certifications in areas not covered by UL.
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Thanks for the input, I was about to put a post up about this. The Jayco website has no information on it which I found very strange, and the sales person I dealt with didn't know.
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