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Old 06-30-2016, 08:13 AM   #31
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I am looking for the twin-Turbo 5.0 for the other 99% of my driving time, not the towing portion... although the towing part should be effortless.
If they don't increase the capacity, it doesn't matter how much power they give the Raptor. The current one has a few hundred pounds less payload capacity than a regular F150, which wasn't very high to begin with. I couldn't even tow my X213.
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Old 06-30-2016, 09:28 AM   #32
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If they don't increase the capacity, it doesn't matter how much power they give the Raptor. The current one has a few hundred pounds less payload capacity than a regular F150, which wasn't very high to begin with. I couldn't even tow my X213.
Agreed, I'd like to see Ford put either Ecoboost engine in a 3/4 ton chassis
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If they don't increase the capacity, it doesn't matter how much power they give the Raptor. The current one has a few hundred pounds less payload capacity than a regular F150, which wasn't very high to begin with. I couldn't even tow my X213.
That's because of it's softer suspension, which was how it was designed. It's more a power truck than a towing truck.

Oh, and by the way... the rear shocks are $820.00 each.
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Ford Eco-Boost -vs- 5.0 Litre

Yeah can't say I've ever seen a Raptor in a campground.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:52 AM   #35
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U kidding guys. A V6 very high compression. Don't like it! ! I'll stick with a 5.0 anytime.
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:24 PM   #36
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I believe one of the areas that is most over looked when comparing engine performance is the rear end, and how you spend the other 99% of your driving. I test drove both the V8 and the EcoBoost and both had a 3:73 rear end. I was more impressed with the EcoBoost's overall performance and especially at the low end. I also had the 65 Mustang, but its HP was at the high end of the HP range. Like a lot of members say it has turbo', but so do the diesel engines.

So, I went with the EcoBoost, I am VERY happy with the choice and so is DW. Would I do it again, YES, unless of course they make the V8 with twin turbo's an option.

The only draw back on our truck is trying to fit the 157" wb in a regular parking spot:-(

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When I went looking last summer, I was told that the Eco with 3.73's was only available in the HD payload which was not being produced in 2015 (or in extremely limited numbers that no dealership could locate.) The 5.0 is available with 3.73 with Max Tow whereas I was advised that the Eco with Max Tow only came with 3.55. I realize the Order sheets say different, just what I was told in Canada. Potential fuel savings aside, I would be interested to see a side by side of the 3.73/5.0 combo vs the Eco/3.55 combo for towing performance as those seem to be most common in tow setups.

I have a camping buddy with a 2014 Eco with HDP and 3.73's and he leaves my 5.4 with 3.73 in the dust when accelerating climbing hills/mountains. His TT is 1500lbs lighter so it is not apples to apples but I am pretty sure the result would be similar even if we swapped trailers. I love the V-8 sound and proven track record, but if I was towing a lot in the mountains I think that would be the factor to tip my scales in favor of an Eco and then I'd get my own MP3 of a 5.0 to blast through my Kicker Soundstage, although I would have to figure out how to sync the mp3 with acceleration.

Really interested on seeing the specs on a 5.0 Eco, even de-tuned for the F150. Would mpg differential between the 5.0L and Eco 5.0L be the same as the 3.5 and the Eco 3.5 and would the torque/hp differential be the same also ?

Don, the extra 10 gallons of gas for towing makes it worth parking at the back of the mall parking lot.
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Don, the extra 10 gallons of gas for towing makes it worth parking at the back of the mall parking lot.
It isn't necessary to get the 6.5 bed for a 36 gallon tank. Unless there's a 46 gallon tank option I'm unaware of . That would be a heck of a tank...
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It isn't necessary to get the 6.5 bed for a 36 gallon tank. Unless there's a 46 gallon tank option I'm unaware of . That would be a heck of a tank...
The extra 120 lbs would be a pain, less beer in the bed to take with.
I have always parked at the back of the parking lots... paint jobs last so much longer

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Yes indeed. Guess I should have mentioned that. Good call.


I have the electronic differential with locking. It's not a 4x4. When I had the oil changed last week, I had the dealer give me a quote for parts and labor to change to a 3.73. $1400
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I have a friend that's an engineer for the power trains in the new trucks coming out. All I can say is, he said good thing you have over a year left on your lease. They are coming out with 10 speed transmission for all there trucks for the 2017 models, and they are having some interesting challenges with the new transmissions. I will leave it at that.
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