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Old 06-27-2016, 09:15 PM   #1
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Ford Eco-Boost -vs- 5.0 Litre

Hi all!

With this road trip, I realize the Ford Sport Trac may not be the bestest TV made although I enjoy driving and pulling our White Hawk 20MRB. However, I have come to realize a used 2011 to 2014 F150 Screw would be a better TV.

So, without starting a war, which engine in the opinions of those that have or have had one, I ask, which engine is really better, the ECO- Boost or the 5.0? All opinions both positive and negative appreciated.

(SWMBO is now also realizing the above, so when she considers letting me purchase a vehicle, I gotta run with it!)

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I'm just gonna grab some pretzels and watch this one... LOL
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Old 06-27-2016, 09:27 PM   #3
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I'm just gonna grab some pretzels and watch this one... LOL
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They're both perfectly capable. For my purposes, I decided 5.0 vs EB was not the deciding factor, I'd get the truck that best met my needs overall and either engine would be acceptable. I ended up with EB. It does have a very slight power advantage over the 5.0, and a more significant torque advantage, so I think in raw performance it's got a bit more pep. But it also has more parts to break. I've seen a lot of high mileage EBs however so it doesn't really scare me -- turbos are simple devices.

Both take regular fuel, both get okay but not stellar gas mileage. The EB makes neat turbo noises, the 5.0 makes lovely V8 sounds. Whatever floats your boat, either one does the job. I did kinda want a V8 rumble, but the whooshing and swishing from the EB makes me smile. And without the trailer attached, it's actually quite zippy -- something like 6 seconds 0-60, which won't beat a fast car but it'll beat a lot of regular cars.
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Pretty much ditto for me with Rootus.
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I have the 3.5 ecoboost and a buddy of mine has the 5.0. We both pull trailers that are very close in weight. I will tell you that I can leave him in the dust pulling (although he drives like an old man). The power and especially torque are much greater. I'm not providing any scientific data here just my experience. But like someone above said, the Eco probably has more parts that could break but it has a very reliable reputation. My .02
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I believe one of the areas that is most over looked when comparing engine performance is the rear end, and how you spend the other 99% of your driving. I test drove both the V8 and the EcoBoost and both had a 3:73 rear end. I was more impressed with the EcoBoost's overall performance and especially at the low end. I also had the 65 Mustang, but its HP was at the high end of the HP range. Like a lot of members say it has turbo', but so do the diesel engines.

So, I went with the EcoBoost, I am VERY happy with the choice and so is DW. Would I do it again, YES, unless of course they make the V8 with twin turbo's an option.

The only draw back on our truck is trying to fit the 157" wb in a regular parking spot:-(

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Both can do the job. Personally, I'd go with the EcoBoost with more horsepower and about another 40 lbft. of torque. It's a towing machine and built specifically to do the job.


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Old 06-28-2016, 05:32 AM   #10
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Both will be just fine, I tow a 28 with the Ecoboost, my brother has a 26? with the 5.0 and has no issues. If you are towing near max limits I'd go Ecoboost just as a matter of preference but either are probably fine.
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I've been a die hard Ford fan for my entire life. I currently own several including a Mustang and a 54 Sunliner Convertible.

I've driven F150's for about 15 years now and have always been a V8 guy. When the Eco came out I laughed at the literature and as recently as 2013 I bought a 5.0. I towed a variety of trailers but admittedly never a TT. Most often it was my boat which weighed in at about 6800 pounds. When I traded my 2013 for a 2016, I wavered and bought the 3.5 Ecoboost. I now pull a 28BHBE and I am very impressed with the power, and capabilities of this truck. I have to say IMO, as far as pulling power the Eco probably just ekes out the 5.0 -

That being said, I agree 100% that the rear end gearing is a huge factor. I made a critical mistake in accepting a truck set up to tow that only has 3.31 gearing in the rear. My first thought was mileage but I regret not going with a better ratio of 3.55 or even 3.73.
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Change your ring and pinion and have the vehicle flashed to accept the new ratio. $200 gets you the R&P + labor. Everything else in the rear is the same.
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For that small of a trailer, either would work great. If you have a lot of higher mountain passes, the turbo E-B will create more power at higher elevations. Both engines are good choices and should move you right on down the road with relative ease.
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Change your ring and pinion and have the vehicle flashed to accept the new ratio. $200 gets you the R&P + labor. Everything else in the rear is the same.
Only $200???? Man...I've been putting this off because I thought it would be $1000 or more. I made the same mistake. Didn't know anything about rear ratios and thought that 3.31 was better.

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Only $200???? Man...I've been putting this off because I thought it would be $1000 or more. I made the same mistake. Didn't know anything about rear ratios and thought that 3.31 was better.

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You probably have a 9.75" rear w/electronic locking diff. Just make sure all parameters are the same. (size, diff. and payload package). Ratio is adjustable. For instance, there are 2 ring gear sizes in the F150. 8.8" and more commonly 9.75". The axle shafts stay the same with the 9.75". They only change with payload packages. Base payload, Heavy Duty payload and the SVT (Raptor) and not with ratio. So if you have a 9.75" ring gear with an electronic locker, base payload pkg. and 3.31 ratio, replacing the ring gear with a 3.55 or 3.73 will change ratio only. Axles only change with payload packages regardless of ratio. But the vehicle needs to be flashed so it knows what rear it's dealing with, which adjusts your mph and odometer to read correctly. But remember, EVERYTHING but the ratio needs to be identical when purchasing the ring and pinion.

- Size (8.8 or 9.75)
- Payload package (Base, Heavy Duty)
- What type differential (Less LTD slip, With LTD slip or Electronic locker)
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You might as well throw a Super Duty into the argument. I'm sure some would argue that a 150 is "good enough." And perhaps your current trailer is "only" 5000 pounds. But there are a few considerations, such as: what will you tow in the future, how much weight will you put into the bed of the truck while towing, where will you be towing, what else will you do with the truck?
Although half ton truck manufacturers publish some hefty numbers, which no doubt they can tow, other considerations are: stopping power, suspension, transmission mapping and capability, frame, and overall towing confidence. No one ever regretted having too much truck (ok, maybe someone...).
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You probably have a 9.75" rear w/electronic locking diff. Just make sure all parameters are the same. (size, diff. and payload package). Ratio is adjustable. For instance, there are 2 ring gear sizes in the F150. 8.8" and more commonly 9.75". The axle shafts stay the same with the 9.75". They only change with payload packages. Base payload, Heavy Duty payload and the SVT (Raptor) and not with ratio. So if you have a 9.75" ring gear with an electronic locker, base payload pkg. and 3.31 ratio, replacing the ring gear with a 3.55 or 3.73 will change ratio only. Axles only change with payload packages regardless of ratio. But the vehicle needs to be flashed so it knows what rear it's dealing with, which adjusts your mph and odometer to read correctly. But remember, EVERYTHING but the ratio needs to be identical when purchasing the ring and pinion.

- Size (8.8 or 9.75)
- Payload package (Base, Heavy Duty)
- What type differential (Less LTD slip, With LTD slip or Electronic locker)
Just remember if you have a 4x4 you have to do the front differential as well.
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Just remember if you have a 4x4 you have to do the front differential as well.
Yes indeed. Guess I should have mentioned that. Good call.
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Some good comments here. I recently went from a 2004 Silverado with a 5.3 V8, 4 speed and 3.73 rear to a 2013 F-150 Ecoboost with a 6 speed and 3.55. I thought the Silverado towed our trailer adequately, but with the Ecoboost, there is no comparison. This is also my daily driver, and having a more fuel-friendly gear ratio also helps. We're not interested in a larger trailer, so what the Ecoboost offers in power is just fine for us.
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You might as well throw a Super Duty into the argument.
Definitely good advice. We considered a 250 but decided our towing needs were unlikely to change dramatically in the next five years, and that's about as long as we'd keep the truck anyway. Our truck is my wife's daily driver, so size was a consideration and she didn't want a 250 for everyday duty. Everyone's needs are different, obviously, but that's how it played out for us.

About the only 'regret' I have, and it's not too serious, is that I should have paid more attention to max tow. There weren't a lot of 1-2 year old max tow trucks on the market when we went shopping, and I decided it wasn't a big deal, even a 'regular' EcoBoost F150 can pull a fair amount more than the trailers we were interested in. With additional experience, I would now pay more attention to payload -- we only have 1425 available to us, which means I have to pay attention to what we bring. We could have picked up a max tow F150 with 500-1000 pounds more payload capacity and had more margin to work with. And I wouldn't have had to install the brake controller or mirrors .

Live and learn! Good to ask questions here, I wish I had.
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