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Old 05-05-2016, 09:07 AM   #1
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Hide A Bed

I thought I would put this here instead of seeing what others thought in the thread that I started about my new camper, this way it can reach a broader audience.

Part of the reason we chose this floor plan was because of the optional hide-a-bed option. I ordered this $555 option with the expectations of getting an actual hide-a-bed - you know the one that unfolds and there is a mattress there? What I got was what looks like this (except 3 cushions instead of 2)-

Rochester Tri-Fold Sofa, 68" - Beige - Lippert Components Inc 350855 - Sofas - Camping World

Had I known that this was what I was going to get for $555, we would of either picked a different floor plan or just purchased a nicer inflatable air mattress.

I am told by the dealership that this is what Jayco considers/calls a hide-a-bed. Now I am waiting for my survey from Jayco so I can let them know about my displeasure.
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I feel your pain, I felt the same way. I think I will purchase a topper for it. Not many other options.

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I feel your pain, I felt the same way. I think I will purchase a topper for it. Not many other options.

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That's what we are thinking too. The bummer is we were trying to get away from doing something like that because then you have to deal with storing it, that's why we thought the hide-a-bed option would be great!
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I believe they call that a jack knife couch. I just replaced mine as it was horrible to sit on. Now there are theater chairs in it's place.
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I believe they call that a jack knife couch. I just replaced mine as it was horrible to sit on. Now there are theater chairs in it's place.
The one that you are referring to is like what we had in our 25BHS. I've heard it called a jack knife and a futon couch and yes you are correct it was horrible. LOL
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I believe they call that a jack knife couch. I just replaced mine as it was horrible to sit on. Now there are theater chairs in it's place.
That is incorrect the jacknife does not fold all the way out, just down in one section. A small child could lay on it that's about it. Sitting wise we felt the hide-a-bed was more comfortable than the jacknife.

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The one that you are referring to is like what we had in our 25BHS. I've heard it called a jack knife and a futon couch and yes you are correct it was horrible. LOL
He has the hide-a-bed, this is the way the new one's look. He paid for the option as I did as well. The jacknife folds down. This one folds out into a couple sections and is not one solid mattress.

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Because we were considering paying extra for a hide-a-bed option when ordering our 28BHBE, at the dealership we found a trailer on the lot with one in it and tested it for function and comfort, then compared that a standard Jacknife sofa (whatever they call it). For us, the hide-a-bed was decent enough (better than the old hide-a-beds we have in the house) and we wanted the extra sleeping room, so we ponyed up for one.

A little research and demoing can save on future frustrations.
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Because we were considering paying extra for a hide-a-bed option when ordering our 28BHBE, at the dealership we found a trailer on the lot with one in it and tested it for function and comfort, then compared that a standard Jacknife sofa (whatever they call it). For us, the hide-a-bed was decent enough (better than the old hide-a-beds we have in the house) and we wanted the extra sleeping room, so we ponyed up for one.

A little research and demoing can save on future frustrations.
We had the jack knife before and it was comfortable to sit on but not to fold out and lay on. I didn't research what a RV hide-a-bed was because my parents had a hide-a-bed in their camper (granted not a Jayco) and it is probably 15 years old by now and they had an actual hide-a-bed, so I guess by me being uneducated in this department I thought a hide-a-bed was a hide-a-bed no matter what Mfg it came from.

I'll go up this weekend and measure it and see what I can get for a pillow top or maybe make something out of foam that can be stored beneath it.
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What's wrong with the hide-a-bed? It felt pretty comfortable to me when I tried it out.
My last camper had the hidden mattress with the bar that ran across your back when lying on it. I think the HAB is better.

I checked both the jack knife and the HAB before ordering and preferred the HAB for the occasional guest. I guessing we'll put a fitted mattress cover over it, then some sheets. (BTW.. the back cushions come completely off.. they were left there in my walkthrough pics.)
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That's a cool looking piece of furniture. Mattress looks like it would be more comfy than the cheap 2"ers they put on the old style HAB's. Wouldn't mind replacing my J-Steel with this, but would lose the storage under, and I don't think I would have the clearance in front of the dinette.
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We don't have our 5er yet, but we're going to be using the Hide-a-bed for our kids or grandkids, on occasion. I noticed it didn't look like it would be very comfortable without some kind of topper. All those stiff cracks and seams don't appear to make for a very comfortable sleeping surface.
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We don't have our 5er yet, but we're going to be using the Hide-a-bed for our kids or grandkids, on occasion. I noticed it didn't look like it would be very comfortable without some kind of topper. All those stiff cracks and seams don't appear to make for a very comfortable sleeping surface.
And that is what my 15 y.o. told me after sleeping on it last weekend. I will be making a "fix" for it after I measure it up this weekend.
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And that is what my 15 y.o. told me after sleeping on it last weekend. I will be making a "fix" for it after I measure it up this weekend.
When you find a good cure let us know!

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I'm thinking of getting a small foam topper and maybe rolling it up when not in use, and securing it with straps or bungie cords. That's the only thing I could think of.
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Kind of hard to tell from the pictures, but looks like there might be 5-6 inches of space underneath the base? If it is accessible could a topper be stored under there doubled over?
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We use a thick comforter on the hide a bed once folded out and a full comforter as a blanket. This is the way our 17 yr old likes to sleep on it. There is space under the seating once the first two pieces are folded out. We store the queen comforter, full comforter, twin blanket and 2 pillows there. I also have full size t-shirt or jersey set of sheets that fit the hide a bed nicely but she likes sleeping on the comforter for now.
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Well I haven't made the foam topper yet. I am working with Jayco's Service Department because of the way this thing lays out. It's not level and the 3 sections are at different levels and there is a part in the middle that has no support that creates a sag from a 113 pound 15 y.o.

Here are some photos that I submitted to Jayco service this weekend...

Sag in middle section.


I used the blanket to set the 4' level true...the camper was double checked to being level prior to doing this. The drop is over 4".


And this is the stitching that wasn't done properly from the Mfg.


I'll keep you all posted when I hear back.
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UPDATE - nothing to update. Still waiting for the couch Mfg to get back to my POC at Jayco. It's been almost 2 months and it's still not resolved. I'm truly disappointed.
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UPDATE - nothing to update. Still waiting for the couch Mfg to get back to my POC at Jayco. It's been almost 2 months and it's still not resolved. I'm truly disappointed.
Sorry to hear this. No way to treat a customer.

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