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Old 05-28-2015, 05:00 PM   #11
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My issue with the 5th wheels are.•You can't get into many of the National parks due to the total over all combined length especially when trying to back into tight campground spots.
1.) I don't camp at national parks... Yet so I cannot comment on this topic.

•The truck needed to put the ones we like are way to big to be comfortable for daily driving.
2.) I've towed mine with a F-350 SRW and a DRW and I drive them as a daily driver. Very comfortable to drive always. They have a better ride than my Ford Taurus SHO and I love that car. I can even get the DRW into a regular parking stall and most drive thru areas.

•You end up with a truck that's a lot bigger than one would normally need for daily use.
3.) Mileage as a daily driver I average 14.5 - 18.9 MPG Mixed driving. Considering my Taurus only gets 22 MPG I'll take it. The truck weighs way more than the car. Plus the car has nothing vs. the truck in an accident.
•If your TV breaks down you're stuck until you can get help.
4.)If your Motor Home breaks down you might need a specialist repair shop, with the truck you may only need a dealership. Towing is also a big difference.
Just my $0.02.
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Old 05-29-2015, 11:43 AM   #12
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If you have a Super C MH that uses a Freightliner M2 or a full Semi chassis such as a Volvo then you can pull into any good diesel shop and they'll most likely work on it since to them it is a truck they work on all the time. This is why we're only looking at Super C or 5th wheel now, no class A DPs. If it doesn't come with a true Truck cab with all of the safety features and crash test we don't want it.

Here are the contenders for a Super C MH. They all use the Freightliner M2 chassis and are all under $250K or so real world pricing with the Seneca and Force being under $200K, Force HD at about $225K. Only the Seneca doesn't come with an RR or ISL 9L Cummins option. All the rest do or it's standard.

The Seneca:


The Dynamax Force, Force HD or DX3:

I really like the top mount awnings on the DX3.


The Renegade Verona:


The Verona and DX3 are higher end but come with the Cummins 9L engine. The Force HD is the same as the Force but comes with the Cummins 9L engine.
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Old 05-29-2015, 12:49 PM   #13
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When momma's happy EVERYONE is happy...
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Old 05-29-2015, 01:27 PM   #14
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another "con"

We have a fifth wheel. I really like having the ability to drop the rv and see sights, get supplies and be able to run someone to a doc or vet easily, if needed. Think about those youngsters you mentioned and having to break camp to haul an injured and screaming child to a doc.
I've gotten to where if we're two nights or more at a site I drop the rv. When home, the f350 mostly sits, but we have another car.
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Old 05-29-2015, 01:55 PM   #15
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Color me intrigued.


An MH on an over-the-road-truck chassis & cab. Meets or exceeds all federal safety standards for the driver and front passenger. If there is an automotive (minivan) style bench seat secured just aft of the driver and passenger, you've got safe seating for 5!


More than enough power to tow a car trailer with a sedan, minivan or crossover for local running around.


And you win on getting service for the truck because the underpinnings are the same as hundreds (thousands?) already on the road.


Is Momma going to do some of the driving? I would expect a big MH pulling a small car would be much easier than nearly equal weight pickup and 5th wheel trailer.
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Old 05-29-2015, 02:32 PM   #16
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I'd like mama to do some driving although I think it would be mainly on the open road so she doesn't have to maneuver around town.

If we go this way then we would tow our Dodge Journey using a dolly since it won't flat tow.

If we get a Ram 3500 to tow a 5er we really need to remove the rear seats to give our two big dogs enough room to ride comfortable so no room to take the grandkids anywhere.

With the MH we have room for grandkids and the dogs during travel and with the journey we can take them and even the dogs. All around it just seems a better way to do but the DW has to come to the same conclusion and be happy with it.
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Old 05-29-2015, 02:37 PM   #17
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Using my own unscientific observations I would say most people utilizing Super C units (and most larger motorhomes regardless of "class") do have a toad, so sightseeing, shopping, doctor visits, etc. are accomplished without breaking camp. I can disconnect my car in mere minutes and have it roadworthy. Even in my pre-Super C days I always towed a car behind my previous Class C Ford-based motorhomes. And my wife is comfortable driving our rig, even towing the car. Both of the cars I can tow are otherwise "daily drivers" when at the stick home.

As far as passengers I have 11 seating positions with seatbelts in my Seneca 37TS; all secured to steel members designed by Jayco for that purpose. I've never hauled that many people, but I have that option for tailgating, or possibly the occasion some of my passengers will stay somewhere else at the destination. Not possible in a 5'r or other camper unless folks are riding in the trailer or you are towing with a heavy-duty window van. And in case someone wonders, I do have the legal weight capacity to have that many passengers, loaded the way I have it with full fuel, propane, and water tank. I am thousands of pounds under my GVWR and GCWR limits with just wife and me.

I am not "knocking" other means to accomplish enjoyment of a traveling and camping lifestyle, I have set up often right next door to people driving a subcompact car and staying in a tent. And they were very happy to do so, just as I am very happy to have "worked my way up" to what I have now. It is all about deciding what you want and what you can afford, but the important take-away is to be safe and enjoy yourself.
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