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01-03-2012, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Donr827
Mike, the new question would be: Is the frame a Dexter or Lippert design?
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That's right, one of my biggies for that decision
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01-03-2012, 06:54 PM
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Reading all these posts have really got me bummed out now.....I try not to read too much into things but now a little concerned about these new frames. My next Jayco was going to be a 2012 or 2013 Eagle 313 but am now thinking with all the QC problems in the 2011's and 2012's, PLUS now the frame issue, I am considering looking for a clean 2009 or maybe 2010 (if I can find one as well cared for as my 2008). Is the Lippert conversion exclusive to the new 2012's or are older ones included?
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01-03-2012, 07:07 PM
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Dan,
Lippert purchased Dexter Chassis in August of 2011.
Only a call to Jayco can confirm if a particular "new" model unit has a frame coming out of a Lippert plant, or the Dexter Chassis plant now operating under the Lippert name. It is entirely possible that Jayco is still receiving the frames from the Dexter plant under the original Jayco specifications, with the only difference being it has the Lippert logo on the frame.
Not enough "factual" information available to know what the Lippert purchase really means at this point.
Bob
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01-03-2012, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dg1971
Reading all these posts have really got me bummed out now.....I try not to read too much into things but now a little concerned about these new frames. My next Jayco was going to be a 2012 or 2013 Eagle 313 but am now thinking with all the QC problems in the 2011's and 2012's, PLUS now the frame issue, I am considering looking for a clean 2009 or maybe 2010 (if I can find one as well cared for as my 2008). Is the Lippert conversion exclusive to the new 2012's or are older ones included?
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dg, according to the link the buyout did not occur until August 2011, well after the 2012`s were out, and undoubtedly there were unused prebuilt frames still in the pipeline after that date. I`m also thinking very little will change at least in the near future. I would not let this bum me out, not yet anyway.
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01-03-2012, 07:09 PM
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It seems Bob and I had pretty much the same thought, at the same moment!
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01-03-2012, 07:17 PM
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Thanks, guys....I have been a head-over-heels Jayco fan ever since spending the previous 20 years researching all the RV's and choosing Jayco over all of the rest. I know, as we all do, there have been some minor QC issues with the most recent models but just can't imagine this company putting an inferior frame under a quality RV. As I said, I am trying not to read too much into this. Time will tell.
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01-03-2012, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Crabman
It seems Bob and I had pretty much the same thought, at the same moment!
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Now that's just a little scary
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01-03-2012, 10:11 PM
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True albeit scary. I've seen what Jayco's bean counters did to the 2012s compared to the 2011s. Still, spec sheets do not account for the crappy welds I've seen.
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I spent four years on the Montana Owners Forum. Nearly all of the frame failures were not from welds breaking but from the thin metal braces tearing. Travel trailers don't have the same stress issues that 5th wheels do. In four years I saw lots of pictures of pin area problems.
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01-03-2012, 10:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald
True albeit scary. I've seen what Jayco's bean counters did to the 2012s compared to the 2011s. Still, spec sheets do not account for the crappy welds I've seen.
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What exactly are you referring to? Could you be a bit more explicit as to what was done to the 2012s compared to the 2011s?
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01-06-2012, 09:29 AM
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And if that one is not enough for ya go over to RVnet and search the 5er forum. There seems to be a new thread about it every few weeks, many have been closed. But the reported by member cracked frames/bad welds issue has not surfaced here. Yet..................
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01-06-2012, 09:56 AM
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Kind of says something about buying older used units in good shape. To be lighter they have to cut weight somewhere. Thiner metal, thinner wood, more plastic.
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01-06-2012, 09:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jim44646
Kind of says something about buying older used units in good shape. To be lighter they have to cut weight somewhere. Thiner metal, thinner wood, more plastic.
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There is something to what you say. My rig is pushing seventeen years old. I will have to do some maintenance to the roof this spring, but considering the cost of a new rig, that is dirt cheap to do.
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01-07-2012, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rray32539
There is something to what you say. My rig is pushing seventeen years old. I will have to do some maintenance to the roof this spring, but considering the cost of a new rig, that is dirt cheap to do.
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My TT is 13 yr. old. It was taken care of before I got it. It's solid. Last year I spent 2 afternoon under it painting the frame and checking for cracks, didn't find any. It's Stored inside over winter. Helps the roof. Sometimes I get bug eyed over shiney new ones but then mine is paid for
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01-07-2012, 11:29 AM
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You should be supporting the economy! :hihi:
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01-07-2012, 01:10 PM
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You should be supporting the economy! :hihi:
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I do. Just cause I don't buy a new TT don't mean I don't buy accessories, campground fees and GAS. No payments on TT means more money to use it.
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01-07-2012, 01:44 PM
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Am I missing something?
I have a new 2012 JayFlight, purchased in Oct 2011. With all this talk about Dexter vs Lippert frames and the apperant purchase of Dexter Frames by Lippert I was curious who made the frame in my TT. According the OEM list found in the owners manual my RV Frame OEM is listed as Leland Engineering. Is this a good thing, or is LeLand Engineering just a DBA or Dexter and/or Lippert?
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01-07-2012, 06:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clubhouse
Am I missing something?
I have a new 2012 JayFlight, purchased in Oct 2011. With all this talk about Dexter vs Lippert frames and the apperant purchase of Dexter Frames by Lippert I was curious who made the frame in my TT. According the OEM list found in the owners manual my RV Frame OEM is listed as Leland Engineering. Is this a good thing, or is LeLand Engineering just a DBA or Dexter and/or Lippert?
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My 2011 JayFlight manual says the same thing. I'm not familiar with all the ins and outs, but my guess is, Leland designed the frame, and Dexter and/or M-Tech fabricated it.
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01-07-2012, 09:30 PM
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Same here, Leland. The fact that ours wasn't Lippert was a selling point for us. We had several Lippert problems with our 5er. Travel trailers do not have the same amount of stress as a 5er.
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01-07-2012, 10:53 PM
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Sorry but if people are worried about Lippert frames they will not ever buy another RV or 5th wheel.
We are in process of ordering a Pinnacle...on a Lippert frame spected to Jayco standards.
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