Jayco Underbelly screws

[rvsatek]

I'm working on a 2011 Jayco 5er and have run across some screw heads I have never seen before. They are similar to torx heads but they have 8 points instead of 6.......I have every tool known to man but cannot find one that works with these screw heads. I tried all the hardware and tools stores to no avail. I looked on line and can find nothing with 8 points. anyone ever run into this?

[jim44646]

Originally Posted by rvsatek

I'm working on a 2011 Jayco 5er and have run across some screw heads I have never seen before. They are similar to torx heads but they have 8 points instead of 6.......I have every tool known to man but cannot find one that works with these screw heads. I tried all the hardware and tools stores to no avail. I looked on line and can find nothing with 8 points. anyone ever run into this?

It's a security screw. You might get away with a square drive, 4 point Catch everyother tooth.
Or try http://hickorytrailerparts.com/catal...products_id=86

[mikefos]

Great post and great reply! Love this forum.

[gatordone]

Snap-on,mac, or craftman have those also.

[norty1]

It's a #2 bit. Square. You can buy them at any hardware store. I just bought a pak of 5 at Lowes for $4.00.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....group_ID=24752

[jim44646]

Originally Posted by norty1

It's a #2 robeson bit. Square. You can buy them at any hardware store.

There is also the 8 point trailer screw.

[RedHorse1]

Security screws? What're they protecting from you?
I figure if the warp drive was installed backwards that might affect your mileage..........

[jim44646]

Originally Posted by RedHorse1

Security screws? What're they protecting from you?
I figure if the warp drive was installed backwards that might affect your mileage..........

That's what I typed in to find them. I guess their called trailer screws. For years trailers used an odd ball figure 8 head (Clutch Head) screw. Anything to be different

[Crabman]

RV and mobile home manufacturers love those things. Along with staples. Real nails and phillips head screws are almost unheard of.

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Originally Posted by jim44646

That's what I typed in to find them. I guess their called trailer screws. For years trailers used an odd ball figure 8 head (Clutch Head) screw. Anything to be different

Other than clutz head, I can't post what I called those clutch head screws. I had a mobile home that had those...things... and they gave me nothing but grief, even when using clutch head screwdrivers. I'm so happy they have fallen out of favor.

[tinlizzie23]

RVSATEK - these screws are call Scru-lox. There are many tool suppliers out there, like Sears, Snap-on, Mac Tools, etc that stock them. They are indeed a square bit that contacts every other point, as other folks have already said. They come in different sizes, and in sets, and you can get either full drivers with handles or just hex drive bits. My set is a Snap-on product, and the size needed for my Designer 5er is Snap-on #BTS2. Hope this helps.

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Originally Posted by Crabman

RV and mobile home manufacturers love those things. Along with staples. Real nails and phillips head screws are almost unheard of.

PITA though they are, staples hold better than nails and work better in guns. The square head screws being used a lot now are less likely to slip than Phillips heads which means the screws and bits are less likely to be damaged (ever wonder why sheet rock hangers go through bits like water?). The screws also are easier to get to stay on the end of a bit than with Phillips screws. It cuts construction labor costs because fewer bits are needed and there is less time wasted changing out bits.

[Crabman]

Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald

PITA though they are, staples hold better than nails and work better in guns. The square head screws being used a lot now are less likely to slip than Phillips heads which means the screws and bits are less likely to be damaged (ever wonder why sheet rock hangers go through bits like water?). The screws also are easier to get to stay on the end of a bit than with Phillips screws. It cuts construction labor costs because fewer bits are needed and there is less time wasted changing out bits.

I guess I`m just old school. When I built my additions on my house I used cement coated nails, phillips head drywall screws. I`m also a 16" on center believer, none of that 20 or 24" stuff.

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Originally Posted by Crabman

I guess I`m just old school. When I built my additions on my house I used cement coated nails, phillips head drywall screws. I`m also a 16" on center believer, none of that 20 or 24" stuff.

I'm also a firm believer in 16" studs, for all the good that will do me since I will never own another house.

Staples are great where they won't show. Nails are easier to hide, especially finishing nails, and can be installed manually. I haven't seen drywall screws in anything other than Phillips, which is odd since square heads would be so much easier to use. They don't wear out as fast and they are less likely to (male rooster; idiot profanity filter didn't like the other word) over on you.

[kiwaon]

Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald

The square head screws being used a lot now are less likely to slip than Phillips heads which means the screws and bits are less likely to be damaged (ever wonder why sheet rock hangers go through bits like water?). The screws also are easier to get to stay on the end of a bit than with Phillips screws. It cuts construction labor costs because fewer bits are needed and there is less time wasted changing out bits.

We've been using Robertson screws in the Great white North for a 100 plus years. That's why we curse less
(:

[jim44646]

Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald

They don't wear out as fast and they are less likely to (male rooster; idiot profanity filter didn't like the other word) over on you.

Look how much money tool manufactures would loose if they didn't wear out fast.

[norty1]

Spend a little more and get a stainless steel bit and you will only need one, If you can find it.