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08-20-2016, 08:41 PM
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Toilet Seal Question
One of the staff at my dealer told me that when I'm not going to be using my trailer for awhile that the best thing for the rubber seal on my toilet is to put a few ounces of brake fluid in the bowl while the trailer sets. Do any of you have a thoughts about that recommendation?
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08-20-2016, 10:04 PM
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Haven't heard that one. I keep either water or antifreeze on the seal.
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08-20-2016, 10:07 PM
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That's a good way to contaminate the waist water and I wouldn't do it. I just make sure that there's always about an inch or less of just good old water in it.
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08-20-2016, 10:40 PM
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Never heard of using brake fluid ...., but a cup of RV antifreeze in the toilet and some in the tank has always worked for me in keeping the dump valves and seals functional.
There are some RV tank conditioner products on the market (Thetford, etc.) that contain lubricants for treating plumbing system valves and seals.
Bob
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08-20-2016, 10:43 PM
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I would have to think the brake fluid would eat the rubber seal away,also any brake fluid that gets mixed into the tank cant be good either.I would rather use like a light cooking oil or something that isnt gonna be corrosive
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08-20-2016, 11:39 PM
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I wouldn't do this.
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08-21-2016, 03:54 AM
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Ok it's early in the morning and I'm sleep deprived but, when I saw this thread, my first thoughts were, why would anyone keep a seal in a toilet—wouldn't the seal be a bit crowded—and why would anyone keep a seal in water and antifreeze? The SPCA would have a field day with that.
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08-21-2016, 06:17 AM
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08-21-2016, 06:25 AM
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My new rig has a sample packet of that Thetford lube seal with my packet. I used it several times and it seemed to help. Plumbers silicone would help also. I would not use brake fluid or any petroleum base product on the rubber.
Just keeping it clean and wet will prevent many problems.
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08-21-2016, 07:37 AM
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I keep a can of Pledge furniture polish with moisturizer in the bathroom cabinet. After every trip, I give the seal a quick spray while closed. Keeps it nice and pliable.
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08-21-2016, 07:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TCNASHVILLE
I keep a can of Pledge furniture polish with moisturizer in the bathroom cabinet. After every trip, I give the seal a quick spray while closed. Keeps it nice and pliable.
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Well I guess the Throne could qualify as furniture?
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08-21-2016, 07:58 AM
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Good way to prevent brake skid mark in the bowl ?
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08-22-2016, 08:22 AM
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Some time ago on another thread, a person suggested olive oil in the toilet when winterizing and I tried it the last two years. The olive oil does not evaporate like the antifreeze or water do so it would seem to me that the seal will be covered. It does look a little flunky when you empty it in the spring, but a little wipe with a cloth will clean it up nicely. And, the olive oil certainly will not hurt the black tank when it gets there.
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08-22-2016, 08:26 AM
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The only reason for brake fluid anywhere than in the brake system is that the dealer gets to make very expensive repairs!
Parts designed for water get water based lubrication ONLY!
There are a few clearly marked non-water-based lubricants for water systems. Stick with those if needed. Not needed if the system stays wet.
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08-22-2016, 08:33 AM
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Quote:
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In the RV industry there is a specialty product for everything! I've had good luck with water and RV antifreeze.
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08-22-2016, 10:04 AM
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Brake fluid does not evaporate very fast and keeps rubber conditioned.
Water and anti-freeze also work but not as well. Unless you are storing it for along time, use the later.
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08-22-2016, 07:45 PM
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Brake fluid can damage some rubber compounds. I wouldn't try it.
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08-22-2016, 08:03 PM
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As a plumber ive seen a few things to lubricate seals. Probably best to stick to something thats tried and tested by RV manufacturers and save yourself some possible grief.
Silicone spray Lubricant is good for keeping seals coated but like others i have usually left an RV antifreeze/water mix on top of the opening. If you find it evaporating quickly ive seen people put cooking oil on top of p traps to prevent evaporation in basements and mechanical rooms and imagine it would work in this case too.
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08-22-2016, 08:18 PM
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No doubt all sorts of tried and true chemicals out there. I leave water in mine - anti freeze if I'm leaving for a while.
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08-24-2016, 08:49 PM
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The seals have to be kept clean first of all. On my 2014 fiver it wouldn't hold water very well at all for the first few months, probably from sitting dry for too long after being manufactured. I got a small bottle of silicone lubricant, turned the water off, and coated the seal with that. If we are gone overnight away from the rig I squirt the silicone around the seal and let it sit. Bowl has held water like a champ for the past year.
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