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Old 04-27-2015, 05:42 PM   #1
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Thumbs down TowMax Tires

Wow, what a trip! We left the Houston area this past Thurs to stay at a CG in Weatherford Tx, about a 310 mi trip one way. We spent part of Fri afternoon at the Granbury Wine Walk (the weather drove us off) and came back on Sat afternoon to spend a bit more tine.
Headed home on Sun morning in nice weather.
Just before Navasota (Hwy 6/290) about 215 miles into the trip one of the TM tires threw about 50% of its tread. I thought it was a backfire from the truck passing us. About a second later the TireMinder starts telling me "blow-out". A quick check in the mirror and I can see the remnants of the tread flopping on the roadway behind me. A call to Good Sam Roadside Rescue got the local tech on his way to us. Tire changed and we're good to continue.
He tells me that the tire next to it is in bad shape also.
I decide to press on towards home and travel SLOWLY. We hugged the shoulder and drove 35-40 mph limping on.
At about mile 291 on the Grand Parkway the TireMinder lights up telling me that we have 0.0psi in another tire.
Another call to GS Roadside gets another tech coming our way with a new tire.
This guy works for a Goodyear Commercial Tire service company (think 18 wheelers) on I-10 (about 10 mi away). Roadside he mounts a replacement tire (a G'year 614 LT tire).
I give up.
We need 3 more tires (the spare in use is a "brand-X" and I don't want to travel any further than absolutely necessary at this point.
We drive to the shop where I leave the 5th for the night. The tech (Scott) followed me to the shop and when we got there told me that another tire had a big bubble or blister that he could see from behind (I'd hope you'd make it to the shop). They will install 3 new tires in the AM and be done by 0900.
So about $1600 later I have 4 new tires and spent about 12 hours on the road on a trip that should have taken 6-7 hrs.
I've always been careful when tending to the tires. I've always checked the pressure before each trip. these tires have never been over 65mph under my control (can't say what happened before I bought new). In storage the tires are covered. They "looked" fine (no dry-rot) and have maybe 7500 mi on them. The date code was 3512 on one of them so they were 3-ish years old.
In a 300 mi trip I had 2 tires completely fail and a third that probably would have failed before I got home (another 20 mi).

I met some excellent people on the road: The 2 techs that worked on my tires and a Texas Highway Patrol officer (Trooper Duke) who stopped to offer assistance.

What I have learned: (all of this is IMHO!)

1) My TireMinder earned its keep that day. No damage from the blowout or flat (it was a blow out also, just slightly slower). If you don't have a tire monitor, get one.

2) GS Roadside also earned its keep that night also. If you don't have some sort of roadside assistance, get one.

3)The TM tires cannot be trusted. If you have 'em, replace 'em.

The first tech looked at the tire next to the blown one and commented that it wouldn't last much longer. What he saw is looking across the tread, the center treads were raised when compared to the treads on the edges of the tires. Somewhat "domed" in appearance, almost as if the tire were over inflated. He commented that is what they look like as the start to separate.

Here's the first blow-out:
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Old 04-27-2015, 05:48 PM   #2
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Glad everyone is ok and no serious damage. Now go do the 17.5" wheel and tire upgrade. Your unit is the perfect candidate.
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Did you happen to check the warranty on the TowMax tires and save the carcases? You may be able to get a warranty adjustment as the tires are under 3 years old.

Might also report it to the NHTSA and see if there might have been a recall on the tires.

See this: http://www.tirebusiness.com/article/...wmax-str-tires

And:

http://www.towmaxtires.com/content/t...5%202014_2.pdf

This makes me question the quality of ALL of their tires.

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Old 04-27-2015, 07:16 PM   #4
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You just spent $1600.00 on the best tire you can buy without changing rims. Forget about the 17.5 tire now.

I can assure you your tire problems are over.
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Very good chance tires are over three years old, as far as warranty claim. Do you know the date codes on the tires?
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Very good chance tires are over three years old, as far as warranty claim. Do you know the date codes on the tires?
Yeah, the code was 3512. So 3-ish years.
I thought being diligent would get me thru.
Not!
These tires are garbage.
I expect warranty is a no go for me. Jayco does not warrant tires, it's between tow-chin and me.
Me: Your tires crapped, I bought another brand, I want $ back.
Tow-chin: ok, that's good, you get local lawyer, we talk.

I'm done with TM!
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Did you happen to check the warranty on the TowMax tires and save the carcases? You may be able to get a warranty adjustment as the tires are under 3 years old.

Might also report it to the NHTSA and see if there might have been a recall on the tires.

See this: http://www.tirebusiness.com/article/...wmax-str-tires

And:

http://www.towmaxtires.com/content/t...5%202014_2.pdf

This makes me question the quality of ALL of their tires.

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No carcasses. I think I'm done with TM.
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No carcasses. I think I'm done with TM.
Completely understand, T!

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Glad to hear there was no damage. code 3512, means the tires were made during the 35th week of 2012, last week of August, so the week of Labor Day weekend.
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Old 05-18-2015, 09:42 AM   #10
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Okay...I am convinced...these tires are a POS...first tire off to mount my new wet bolts, and metal valve stems and it's rounded with lumps all over the place. Maintained at pressure coming and going and now this one looks like a bicycle tire it's so out of shape.

I am going through Jayco first, I asked for upgraded tires before buying and they did not offer it. Low a behold this 2016 run has them offered. ****** right now!!!!!
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If y'all must use an ST style tire, there is an American made ST tire by MULTI-MILE- My son has ordered a set for his 5er- I had personal experience with this brand several years ago on a passenger car- The product was very good in all aspects- I believe the factory is in Ohio- JMHO- DD
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File Complaint About Tires Here http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchSafetyIssues

We can continue to banter back and forth on this forum about XX brand tire failures, or we can actually try to do something about it.

Use the link above to submit your actual failure information.
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Multi Mile is a brand that is marketed by the same company that does Tow-Max.

Welcome to TBC Brands

Carlisle is the ST company located in Ohio, but I think the tires are still made overseas just like the Goodyear ST's.
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I have been assured that the STs made by Multi Mile are manufactured in the "good old USA"- When the tires arrive, if they are not of US manufacture, they will be refused and our search for an American made product will resume- JMHO- DD
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Multi Mile sells the Power King - Towmax Brand, so they are not made in the USA
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When I did some research, I found that many Tire companies do the engineering in one country ( like the US or Canada), then contract the large tire plants in China and Taiwan to produce the tire.


These Chinese production sites, also make generic tires and private label them for sale in different parts of the world.


Companies like TBC brands imports these privately labels tires and distributes to lots of different tire shops in the US.
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Update: Jayco is doing right by me and correcting my tire situation. This is not the first time Jayco has stood up tall on an issue and just reinforces my decision to stay with them. So for all you guys keeping score, put a talley mark for satisfied owner.

Not having to deal with Tow Max or TBC brands is worth it alone as I am sure they would find a way to blame me.
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Update: Jayco is doing right by me and correcting my tire situation. This is not the first time Jayco has stood up tall on an issue and just reinforces my decision to stay with them. So for all you guys keeping score, put a talley mark for satisfied owner.

Not having to deal with Tow Max or TBC brands is worth it alone as I am sure they would find a way to blame me.
That's excellent news "3's"! What are they going to do for you, if I may ask?
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Towmax tires are junk i bought a new jayco tt last year and they were on the tt . Six short trips out with our ner tt and boom trailer tire blows. We only traveled a total of1000 miles @65mph useing a dually.tire pressure was 65 lbs cold.after trying to find tow max tire company i finely found out they are based out of canada as dynamic tire told them my situation and after sending them the tire they replyed (3 months later) with sorry this happened i removed all there junk tires and replaced them with maxxis brand better tire much better reviews by the way the dealer i bought the tt from said the tires arent covered under jaycos warranty so i paid 2500.00 to repair tt 1600.00 for new tires
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Joe, what size tires, what type and size trailer are you towing?
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