Upgrading from PUP. TT or Hybrid?

[33 RLDS]

The set up on the hybrid didn't bother me. It was having to climb over each other to get to the bathroom and hearing your neighbors at night. It seemed even worse than being in a tent. Sounds seem to be amplified that high off the ground.

[DocBrown]

If you like the camping experience in a pop-up but hate the work, you'll love a hybrid. Our X20E (baby brother to the 23) is our second hybrid. Our first was an '03 Jayco Kiwi 17a that we bought new and had for 10 years.

You will hate towing a 23B with that Trailblazer. We towed our X20E for one summer with a Trailblazer that had the I6 and it was adequate but not stellar. Definitely not for mountains or lots of hills. Our Sierra pulls it without any struggles. The X20E is a smaller trailer than the 23B.

Your wife won't do a full size truck? My wife loves our truck. Mileage difference is negligible, in fact our Sierra gets better mileage than our Trailblazer got. Full size is not that much bigger but they are far more capable. Get her to test drive one. Unless you go to a full size truck your options are limited. Also a full size truck would give you a place to haul bikes and other larger items. We will never go back to a mid-size truck.

Setup time, the beds do not use poles to hold them up. Wires. Just drop them and pop in the shepherds poles. Less than 5 minutes total for both beds. Same for closing them up. Nothing even close to setting up a pop-up. Leaks? We have yet to have a leak on the beds in 14 years of owning hybrids. They are vinyl covered canvas and dry off easily with a towel when packing on a wet morning. Even if it's raining while packing, they dry off quickly at home because the water doesn't soak in.

The dampness issue is condensation. On our old hybrid we'd leave a flap open to allow moisture to escape. On our current one we found leaving the small fold out window above the sink (X23B has one too) alleviates the condensation.

If it's too noisy at night then you'd need to consider where you are camping. We really haven't encountered too many places where there was noise all night. Most places have enforced quiet hours. But for some folks I know this is a big issue.

We keep our trailer pretty well stocked with everything we need save for clothes and food. I run through a checklist every trip just to make sure we don't forget anything.

Hope that helps!

[Kim Gass]

Pretty much all has been covered.
We like the hard side TT because it can be heated efficiently. We camp in the north so heating is more important than a/c
A side benefit is that when car camping we can camp in some areas that disallow tenting as there is a bear problem. Hard sides are permitted in Griz country in Canada. Not so hybrids.
That said we have all our gear in the unit for two weeks in the backcountry canoe camping. Tent included.
Our first criterion was the bed had to be accessible by both with no crawling over the other and the bathroom accessible at 3 am. We're old

[MagooIsBoo]

We went from several pup's to our 16xrb. Light weight, easy to tow. Like many others have mentioned an amazing improvement from the pop ups. By having a set routine for loading, unloading and reloading makes going on spontaneous weekend trips really easy.