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Old 03-25-2015, 08:37 PM   #21
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We just took delivery on a 28BHBE and are towing with a Toyota Tundra. It to is a half ton but has a higher tow rating than yours coming in at 10,500. I knew we would going to be at the upward capacity of the truck payload wise so we went with an E4 WDH and added timbren's to the rear suspension of the truck. Only towed it home so far so I can't give much input but with the WDH and timbren's the truck looked nice and level and towed home very nicely. We take our first trip out for easter. This model is seeming to be pretty popular and there are a few people here with it that chimed in when I was having similar questions. Hopefully they will be along to comment. Its a super nice camper and I'm having fun getting it all set up and ready for our first trip.

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Old 03-25-2015, 09:12 PM   #22
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That 6100 # may be a bit off. The actual weight out of the factory will be on the yellow sticker on the trailer. If i remember correctly, mine came in around 7000 or just a bit over. Have to check what is included in that number. I know i keep in my head, around 9000 that i am towing. I tow with an F350 diesel that weighs 8800. Went through the CAT scales in Pa on a trip out of curiosity, and I believe I was around 17000. Too late now, but if I remember in the morning I will check the sticker and look for the scale ticket and report back; dont want to mislead. Also, I have the Reese Dual Cam, and feel very comfortable with it.

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Old 03-26-2015, 07:24 AM   #23
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Here's my before and after TV's...The Infiniti was rated to tow 8500lbs...It towed fine, but it wasn't a pleasant experience! Now I sit back and enjoy the drive with the RAM! Complete night and day towing experience...It was the best thing I could have done.
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Old 03-26-2015, 07:55 AM   #24
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Where should I look for the truck gvr numbers to make sure I am correct??
The sticker on the "B" pillar will tell you your weight limits. Only a scale will tell you what you actually weigh. As important as the combined weights is the weight limits on each axle. You could be below the GVWR but still over the Rear GAWR. A visit to the CAT Scale will tell you what you weigh now. That will help you understand how much extra cargo you have for the whole TV as well as each axle.
Let's say your Rear GAWR is 3000# and the scale says the drive axle weighs 2100#. That leaves 900# for cargo on that axle. A reverse calculation suggests you could tow roughly 6900# max. (900 / 0.13). This assumes the tongue is 13% of the TT weight.
A trip over the scale runs abt $10 and is $$ well spent IMHO.
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Old 03-26-2015, 10:36 AM   #25
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Based on my experience of owning a Jayco 284BHBE, a Ram 1500 and now a Ram 2500, the 284BHBE is too much trailer for your truck. Don't believe Jayco's website on dry weights and tongue weights, they are very low. The dry weight on the yellow sticker of my 284BHBE is 7250, not sure of my actual tongue weight, but it is not a big issue with my 3/4 ton truck.

As others said, payload is going to be your limiting factor, but I see a small V8 and 3.42 rear as potential problems with a trailer gross weight of 9200#s. You will be running your truck to the max and maybe beyond.

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Old 03-26-2015, 10:46 AM   #26
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The problem here - and nobody has really said it - is that RV salesmen are notorious for saying, "Oh yeah, your truck will pull this trailer just fine!" When I bought my first travel trailer - an Outback 29BHS - the salesman pointed to the tow ratings for my 2003 1500 Suburban and said my vehicle would do fine. (No mention whatsoever about a GVWR!) Simply put - the Suburban struggled to tow and to handle that load. Period.

Soon afterward, I traded the Suburban for my present 2500HD Crew Cab and the difference was amazing. All of a sudden, getting there was half the fun! no more white-knuckled towing trips!

Unfortunately, we all have to learn - usually the hard way. The salesman is just that . . . a salesman. Once the sale is made and you pull the trailer off their lot, it's now your problem. Wish it wasn't that way and that dealers felt some kind of responsibility to sell people trailers that fit their situation. But sadly, the bigger and higher-priced the trailer they sell, the more money they make. That's what drives the industry.

OK. Off my soap box.

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Old 03-26-2015, 12:16 PM   #27
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X2 what Mike said!

3:42 gears with a 6 speed trans is like a 4:11 gears with a 4 speed. The gearing of the 6 speed transmission makes that much of a difference. So I don't see a problem there.

But as said, you'll still be pushing the overall limits. You'll hear people say their similar setup "tows fine", "no problems". What you don't realize is that they don't have anything to compare it to. That said, I've knowingly towed close to my limits with 2 different combos over the years. Yes, I was safe. Yes, it was "no problem", and no white knuckle experiences either. But by experience I can tell you there is a marked difference between towing close to limits, and towing with a proper TV/trailer combo. I suspect you'll be replacing that truck in 12-18 months.

That said, well cared for your trailer will easily last 10 years. We had both a Jayco pop-up ('93 1208) and a hybid ('03 Kiwi 17a) for 10 years each. Very well built trailers. Our X20E seems to be equally well built.

Regarding WD hitches, they are not for reducing rear end squat. They are for putting weight back on the front wheels, the steering control, of your truck. Read your manual, there is a spec in there for front fender height using a WD hitch. Unless something has changed, GM says the front fender should be back to stock height when the WD hitch is properly adjusted.

Best wishes on your new trailer! Most of all, have fun!
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Old 03-26-2015, 03:28 PM   #28
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Ok so I went to the GMC dealer today and found that the curb weight is 5200 lbs on my truck that makes a big difference. the trailer weighs in at 6100lbs I have added the cold weather package so that could add a bit. The site lists the tongue weight at just over 600lbs the dealer is throwing an equalizer hitch for free. I will bring all we need is cloths food and dinner plates and a few pots and pans. total with the truck trailer people 500lbs on the high side this includes the 2 dogs. without adding anything I am at 11,800 which gives me 3200 lbs and I should only need max 800lbs for stuff we don't have bikes or anything and the unit has sheets tv everything we think we want. The truck is a lease and I will upgrade that once the lease is up in 3 years but will be financing the trailer for 15 and plan to grow the family. As I have stated prior we plan to travel with this and spend weeks at a time in it don't plan to come close to the gcwr on the truck or trailer and plan to stay minimum of 2000lbs to 2500lbs under the 15,000 limit any thoughts on the new corrected specs and plan?
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Old 03-26-2015, 08:17 PM   #29
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My sticker says 6940 out of the factory. I did not have a chance to find the CAT scale ticket, but I recall the combo being over 17,000, with the trailer being 9000+ loaded for a weekend trip. Keep in mind a full tank of water adds over 700 lbs. You will be surprised at how quickly weight can add up.

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