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Old 04-14-2015, 08:30 PM   #1
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I am towing a Seismic 3712 (19,000 lb gross, approx 3100 lb pin weight) with a 2000 F-350 crewcab 4x4 with the 7.3. I am thinking of puttting airbags on to help with the small amount of "rocking" that I get in turns and for the harshness of the ride over some of our highways.

What do some of you use? Any recommendations on a specific kit? I would prefer to get one of the kits with the air compressor and tank, but we will see how the budget is. Any thoughts?
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We have the Firestone bags without the compressor. I have a small hand pump I use on my air shocks on my Harley and it works great. $50. My bags leak about a pound a week so no issue.
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Timbrens also help at a lot lower cost and zero maintenance.
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Firestone Airbags here... Have been happy with them.
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Old 04-15-2015, 11:23 AM   #6
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I am towing a Seismic 3712 (19,000 lb gross, approx 3100 lb pin weight) with a 2000 F-350 crewcab 4x4 with the 7.3. I am thinking of puttting airbags on to help with the small amount of "rocking" that I get in turns and for the harshness of the ride over some of our highways.

What do some of you use? Any recommendations on a specific kit? I would prefer to get one of the kits with the air compressor and tank, but we will see how the budget is. Any thoughts?

I had your exact same truck for 5yrs and ran airlift 5000 bags with no problems whatsoever. I am not being the weight police at all so please don't be offended but I thought I would point out that you will be WAY over your GVWR with that trailer. When I owned that truck I originally thought I would be able to tow anything with it. I was really disappointed when I realized the GVWR is 9900lbs and the truck weighs 8200. That only leaves 1700lbs for payload/pin weight. Again, not calling you out at all, just thought I would mention it in case you weren't aware.
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Old 04-15-2015, 01:32 PM   #7
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You will like the air bags ! I towed several years without them and when I got my new truck decided to put them on. Do you have to have them "no" do they help "yes" after averaging 5,000 miles a year for the last six years and spending the winters in the south west you are lucky to see 30% of the rigs that are within the gvwr ratings . Everyone has to decide if they are comfortable with what they have . I have seen some that shouldn't even be driving a car must less pulling a trailer. If you get air bags be sure to share your thoughts on them on the forum and good luck !
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I went a different direction than the air bags. I chose a SuperSpring. I liked the ride of the truck as it was unloaded and didn't want to stiffen the ride. I know you can do the same thing with air bags but I didn't want to fool with adding and releasing air. The SuperSpring has no effect on the ride when you are not towing. It works great when I add the trailer. Easy install takes about an hour.
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Old 04-16-2015, 11:19 PM   #10
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Thanks for the thoughts. Grumpy, are the Timbrens the rubber bumper things that replace the bumpstops? I have those, but didn't know what they were called.

Blderman, I am aware of what the paper says the truck can do and appreciate your points. Mine is a cab and chassis that ford used to haul car haulers or a box to car shows and then sold it to a dealer. They finished it out as a pickup truck and sold it to my dad for use in a business. It has a higher gvw and tow rating than a standard 1-ton pickup (though not what the new trucks show, I agree with that), and the ride to go along with it . I have upgraded the brakes, added a custom 4R100 tranny (BTS), exhaust brake, tuner (DP Tuner with custom tunes), upgraded turbo, and a few other things to help it along. I will one day own a newer truck, but can't afford the 66,000 list on one of these things. I have built this one so far with cash. Sorry to be long winded, but I wanted to relay what this truck has. So far, it has towed ford car haulers, commercial trailers, a 31 foot camper by my father, and a 41 foot Evergreen fifth wheel (17,000 lbs) from Washington to California and then back to Ohio. We then towed the Seismic from Ohio back to CA, where we are now. I am told that the air bags are more stable than what I have now and am looking into them.

Again, thank you for all the input. It is most helpful as I keep researching. If there is anything else people have done to build their trucks, I am always looking for ideas
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Thanks for the thoughts. Grumpy, are the Timbrens the rubber bumper things that replace the bumpstops? I have those, but didn't know what they were called.



Blderman, I am aware of what the paper says the truck can do and appreciate your points. Mine is a cab and chassis that ford used to haul car haulers or a box to car shows and then sold it to a dealer. They finished it out as a pickup truck and sold it to my dad for use in a business. It has a higher gvw and tow rating than a standard 1-ton pickup (though not what the new trucks show, I agree with that), and the ride to go along with it . I have upgraded the brakes, added a custom 4R100 tranny (BTS), exhaust brake, tuner (DP Tuner with custom tunes), upgraded turbo, and a few other things to help it along. I will one day own a newer truck, but can't afford the 66,000 list on one of these things. I have built this one so far with cash. Sorry to be long winded, but I wanted to relay what this truck has. So far, it has towed ford car haulers, commercial trailers, a 31 foot camper by my father, and a 41 foot Evergreen fifth wheel (17,000 lbs) from Washington to California and then back to Ohio. We then towed the Seismic from Ohio back to CA, where we are now. I am told that the air bags are more stable than what I have now and am looking into them.



Again, thank you for all the input. It is most helpful as I keep researching. If there is anything else people have done to build their trucks, I am always looking for ideas

Thanks for not being offended as I was only trying to help. IMO Ford really screwed up the ratings on those early Super Duty trucks.

I think you will really like airbags. I had 2,500+lbs in the bed of that truck several times and the ride and handling were miserable without airbags. Do you have the heavy duty rear away bar? That makes a substantial difference too.
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I am not sure about the heavy rear bar, but it has heavier rear springs than a typical 1-ton. When it was a commercial truck, we regularly carried 3,000 lbs with it regularly and towed a 15,000 lb trailer with 3-4000 lb tongue weight 20 miles on a direct ball no weight distribution setup. I don't know if I'd do that now, but other than the hitch now having some slack in it, no harm was done.

I am not sure why these truck weren't rated higher. Compared to today's trucks they were down on power, so maybe that's it. It was also before the towing wars and seeing who can climb the fastest (great way to break something, in my opinion). Back then a 1-ton Dually was just a work truck and we really didn't worry about gvw and tow ratings. If it needed hauled, we hauled it.

Sounds like I better be pricing some airbags
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