Seismic Westlake tires

[P25ct]

Originally Posted by Turtle Tim

Ok, I measured the spacing between the tires on my 355W, and it was slightly over 2 1/8". With the Sailuns being 9/10's of an inch more in diameter, that will give me over the 1" that Dexter requires. (I said Lippert in the post above, but the axels are actually Dexter and that is who I spoke with).
Ordered the Sailun's today from Simple Tire. Could not find them locally. America's Tire will mount, balance, and install for $80. Will feel better with a sturdier tire with extra load rating for some cushion.

Now that's a smart turtle!!

[Loboclone]

"I know we are beating this topic to death however, the drama continues in that I heard some 2017's have been fitted with Maxxis tires. If that's the case, I may decide to hold off for a couple years before upgrading and definitely upgrade if or when we do a trek up to"

The 2017 Jayco Toy Haulers are still using Westlake tires, they are the cheapest that have a DOT load Rating.

[House of Harview]

Originally Posted by Loboclone

The 2017 Jayco Toy Haulers are still using Westlake tires, they are the cheapest that have a DOT load Rating.

Thanks for the update, Loboclone. Oh well, I will just have to go with the 17.5" Sailuns right out of the gate and be done with it already.

[UpstateNYRecon]

Are the Westlake's G rated? I'm really disappointed as I'm supposed to pick up a '16 4250 this week. My '12 Recon has Marathon's and have never had a problem.

[Turtle Tim]

Yes, the 235/85R16's I bought are G rated.

[Turtle Tim]

And if weight is any indication of quality, these should be good. Man they are heavy.

[UpstateNYRecon]

Sorry Tim, I meant the Westlakes that come on the trailer, are they G's?

[Turtle Tim]

Whoops....misread that. My Westlakes were E rated on my 355W

[Loboclone]

Originally Posted by UpstateNYRecon

Are the Westlake's G rated? I'm really disappointed as I'm supposed to pick up a '16 4250 this week. My '12 Recon has Marathon's and have never had a problem.

They are G rated for 4250, however...........I have had 2 end up like this

http://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/at...1&d=1464995109

[vinnytheblade]

Jim - I just purchased a 4212 and one of the Westlake tires looks bad. Since this is a significant safety concern I am going to change the tires and want to go to a high quality tire. Did you need to change the rims to use the Sailun S637 tires?

Originally Posted by NC Hauler

I would recommend going with the SailunS637 16" G rated tires...you don't need the 17.5" tires and wheels...these tires manufactured by Sailun, is ISO 16949 certified..speaks highly of their quality. I wouldn't run the GY Marathons, but would look at G614 16" G rated GY tires..quite expensive, but a good tire, though I would go with the Sailun G614 tires.


Jim

[NC Hauler]

Originally Posted by vinnytheblade

Jim - I just purchased a 4212 and one of the Westlake tires looks bad. Since this is a significant safety concern I am going to change the tires and want to go to a high quality tire. Did you need to change the rims to use the Sailun S637 tires?

You won't have to change the rims. They will work with the G rated Sailun S637 tires..and Rims will handle 110 psi..I will be replacing the junk Westlakes this fall.

I asked Jayco why they used these cheaply made tires on such expensive trailers....and NEVER even got an answer...I was totally ignored..I thought it was very rude for a Jayco service rep to totally ignore a customer. Evidently...its all about making money, and no care for the safety of their customer...They have a "out of sight, out of mind" mentality about their customers, once you're out of sight...they don't care about you anymore and we're talking about what one's TH, 5er, TT is riding on...They buy China bombs by the thousands to cut corners and save money, only to possibly leave us stranded and with damage to our brand new, quite expensive RV's...and the manufacturer doesn't care one little bit.

Sad, very sad, that Jayco's good reputation is slowly but surely, going down the tubes...

Jim

[Turtle Tim]

Agree with what Jim says about cutting corners to save $$. But this is not exclusive to Jayco unfortunately. Most major brands do exactly the same thing. My last 5th TH came with Freestars, same quality level as Westlake.
Other what would be considered high quality builders like Grand Design have used cheap tires on their units.
I'm new to Jayco, so I guess my past experience set the bar low?

[NC Hauler]

Originally Posted by Turtle Tim

Agree with what Jim says about cutting corners to save $$. But this is not exclusive to Jayco unfortunately. Most major brands do exactly the same thing. My last 5th TH came with Freestars, same quality level as Westlake.
Other what would be considered high quality builders like Grand Design have used cheap tires on their units.
I'm new to Jayco, so I guess my past experience set the bar low?

You are correct..It's not just Jayco, Quite a few manufacturers cut corners with tires they use...

[vinnytheblade]

I just replaced all 6 tires this morning with Goodyear G614's. Everything seems good but I noticed that the sidewall clearance between the tire and plastic fender on the passengers side is tight. This plastic fender looks like is is held in place with a thin metal bracket so I just bent it a little to give me more space. You should look at this if you replace the tires with Goodyear or other 235/85 tires. I'll let everyone know how the tires do after our next adventure.

[eldermike]

I put G614's on before I closed the deal on my Pinnacle. I paid for them with a credit card but the dealer was good enough to pull it to the tire dealer and do the swap out.

Some have suggested that Jayco should put good tires on the rig at the factory. The truth is most people buy on price and any decision such as upgrading the tires can affect sales. I see most 5'th wheel campers in my area with grass growing up around them as they sit in the yard for year on year. Any tire will work with most of these rigs because they almost never get on the road.

I think Jayco should have options for those that know how to best equip a fifth wheel for heavy use. This is where they fall short. The maxxis option is a good start but here again "E" rated tires are to light duty for these weights and the only good option IMHO in "G" is the 614.

[MrC]

I was wondering why not the 80 vs the 85?
It almost an 1 inch smaller in outside diameter. Same load rating. Anyone?

[Loboclone]

Originally Posted by MrC

I was wondering why not the 80 vs the 85?
It almost an 1 inch smaller in outside diameter. Same load rating. Anyone?

Sailun S637 is exactly same 80 vs 85, cant speak to the Goodyear's.

[Turtle Tim]

I looked for 80 when I bought mine and couldn't find any. Went with the 85's.

[kenleach]

try the Michelin DEFENDER LTX LT 235/85R16 E ten ply tire, I have them on my 4212 there awesome

[NC Hauler]

Originally Posted by kenleach

try the Michelin DEFENDER LTX LT 235/85R16 E ten ply tire, I have them on my 4212 there awesome

What is their weight rating? You have 3 7K weight rated axle's...I've heard of people using the Michelin XPS Ribs on 6K weight rated axle's, but not on 7K axles., (E rated at 3042# weight rating at 80psi), but got to admit, you're the first I've heard of using THAT particular Michelin tire on a TH with 3 7K axles.

I'd recommend the Sailun S637 G rated tire....pick up 4K weight on tires @ 110 psi...as good as, if not better than the GY G614, but substantially cheaper in price..It's the route I will go.