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10-07-2014, 05:24 PM
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Weight Dist. Hitch
New to Toy Hauling..I have a 30ft. jayco will be hauling 2 motorcycles one is a Heritage Softail and a 1200 Sportster..I put a Pro Series Weight Distribution system on..will be hauling with a 1500 Silverado..I believe I know the answer BUT...I should of leveled the trailer with the bike's in the trailer.... I did not do this and my truck squats it is not level..I leveled the trailer empty....Dont beat me up to bad
Thanks
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10-07-2014, 05:31 PM
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Lost in the Woods
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The weight on your truck should decrease as you load the bikes not increase shouldn't it?
A toy hauler is a massive undertaking for most 1500's.....a lot of tongue weight
what are the specs on the truck and what model trailer?
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10-07-2014, 05:42 PM
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5.3 L V8 xtended cab with tow package....Jayco Talon 30 ft
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10-07-2014, 05:44 PM
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Lost in the Woods
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what are your main issues when the trailer is loaded ready to camp?
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10-07-2014, 05:55 PM
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No the trailer and truck is not level with the WDH is on, the trucks still is squatting in the rear..just trying to figure out what I have done wrong at trying to level out everything
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10-07-2014, 05:58 PM
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Lost in the Woods
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what weight of hitch do you have?
What is your estimate of how much the TW is?
what is the year and model number of your trailer?
Maybe your bars can not transfer enough weight because they are too weak
or maybe it is just way too much for your truck
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10-07-2014, 06:39 PM
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this is a 2015 29ft octane specs, thats a lot of weight for any 1500, you need airbag's or timbrems, and some flat land
Unloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs) 6,870
Dry Hitch Weight (lbs) 1,010
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (lbs) 11,950
Cargo Carrying Capacity (lbs) 5,080
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10-07-2014, 09:46 PM
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28 STM, Talon ZX
unloaded v.w. 5915 lb
dry hitch 815 lb
Gross V.W...10900 lb
Cargo Carry Cap. 4985 lb
This is the WDH I got....
49903 Pro Series Weight Distribution System w Friction Sway Control - Round - 10,000 lbs GTW, 1,000 lbs TW..- Tongue weight: 750 to 1,000 lbs
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10-07-2014, 10:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gjs1955
28 STM, Talon ZX
unloaded v.w. 5915 lb
dry hitch 815 lb
Gross V.W...10900 lb
Cargo Carry Cap. 4985 lb
This is the WDH I got....
49903 Pro Series Weight Distribution System w Friction Sway Control - Round - 10,000 lbs GTW, 1,000 lbs TW..- Tongue weight: 750 to 1,000 lbs
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i would still think you have over a 1000 lbs of tong weight when loaded , A w.d. wont take all that off the rear axle only a % of it , probably still need Timbrems or airbags to help adjust the rear sag .
Best thing is to find a scale and weigh truck by itself and then with trailer and then with w.d hooked up , and that should help you adjust the hitch ,
I had a trailer on my truck and weighed it and there was 1200 lbs of hitch weight on rear axle , but after weighing 3 times I found out that out of that 1200 lbs ,400 lbs of it was off the front end of the truck , so I really had 800 lbs of hitch weight , if I had a w.d. hitch I could help fix that by transferring some of that weight back up front
mike
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10-08-2014, 03:15 AM
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Lost in the Woods
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You just need to go back through the instructions on your hitch and redo the setup. The instructions are step by step. Make sure you are setting your ball height correctly.
You need to measure the wheel well heights before and after hooked up
You say it is squatting in the rear but we don't know how much weight is being transferred to the front. You need to measure the height of the front fender to see if you can adjust the hitch to get it as close to unloaded as possible.
add more washers or use less links to transfer more weight.
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10-08-2014, 07:32 AM
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5.3 L V8 extended cab with tow package. What year? What gears? This info makes a difference. Towing capacity goes up every generation of truck and/or engine redesign. And gearing can make or break your ability to tow your dream trailer.
The trailer itself should be level or slightly down in front.
Rear squat of the truck is normal to some extent. Don't focus on that, as said, focus on restoring the fender height back to what is was before hooking the trailer up. That's a GM specification that is outlined in your truck's manual.
As far as max tongue weight goes, that spec is in your manual also. Mine is 1200# with a W/D hitch.
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10-08-2014, 08:50 AM
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I believe when I remeasured the front fenders
it went UP 2-3 inches
truck is a 09
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10-08-2014, 09:05 AM
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You are out of truck so to speak. I have been there myself. Timbrens to control the squat in setting up, then reset ball height based upon how it sits without the bars, and then max out your bars and measure. That's a first pass and you may have to go back to step one and adjust your ball height again. Then you're done until you trade on a 3/4-1 ton truck.
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10-08-2014, 09:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gjs1955
I believe when I remeasured the front fenders
it went UP 2-3 inches
truck is a 09
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1. To make your truck front end rise so much means that your springs are out of adjustment with your loaded trailer.
2. If both the back end of your truck and the front end of the trailer are dipping down when hooked up for camping, then your hitch head is too low.
refer to your hitch installation instructions.
- when hooked up, measure trailer height front and rear. then unhook trailer and raise/lower hitch head to level trailer.
- check your instructions on how to ensure your hitch head tilt is correct. When hooked up and ready to camp, your spring bars should be parallel to the TT tongue with enough tension to return your truck to near level (as recommended by your truck manual).
I'm sure you know this, but you are probably towing the max your truck can take. Neither airbags nor add-a-leaf springs in the back will change your tow capacity, they will just help level your truck if needed.
Tim
2008 26BHS (9300 GVW)
2010 CCLB Ram w/cummins
Reese strait-line WD hitch w/1000# bars
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10-08-2014, 10:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gjs1955
I believe when I remeasured the front fenders
it went UP 2-3 inches
truck is a 09
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So your truck is very similar to mine, same drive train. You say the trailer is 5915# unloaded? If that's the case you are not going to like the towing experience. Loaded with your toys you're going to be closer to 6k, and probably higher than that. I'm towing close to 5k# loaded. It tows like a dream. I feel I could easily add another 1000#, but not much more than that.
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10-22-2014, 06:06 AM
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Hello, first post: I just ordered a new octane 273. I'll be towing it with 2004 gmc sierra 2500 hd duramax. I'm looking for advice on a WDH with sway control. I just got a new hitch for the truck. A curt class 5 with 2" reciever. Trying to get an idea what style guys are useing. I kind of like the reese straightline dual cam design. Is there a difference between the round bar and trunnion style? I get different figures on UVW for this trailer. (5700 and 6400 more or less). I seem to come up with the need for 10,000/1000 hitch capacity, but that hitch only comes in 10,000/800 or 12,000/1200. Is it better to go heavier than needed or right at the limit and maybe a bit to light? Kind of came up with this. Thanks for the help.
http://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Distr...e/RP66083.html
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