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Old 02-12-2013, 09:22 AM   #1
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Window Screen Mod for X17Z

This screen mod improved the cross flow of fresh air and makes the TT more comfortable.

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First things first: I’m well aware this an Emergency Egress Window. I would never recommend anyone modify an emergency exit. That said, it should be obvious I don’t believe I compromised our safety or I wouldn’t have done it.

The hardware necessary to do this mod was available from a company that’s a window supplier to Jayco. If you decide to do this, you have to find out who made your window – they don’t all come from the same supplier.

The screen frame pieces join together the same way common residential screen frames do. (One end fits into the other using plastic corner pieces.) The frame also is residential style in that the screen itself is held in a groove with window screen spline. Making the frame was made a whole lot easier by being able to buy the radius corners.

The tricky part is being able to mount the little spring steel clips that secure the window to the frame. In mass production the slots for the clips are pre-punched. When you cut your own lengths from stock, you have to make them. I used a rotary tool and made many real small passes until I had a slot that would hold the clips. I'm sure there are many other ways to hold the screen in place.

Fresh air moving through the camper made it all worth while. (There is only one window on the street side of a 17Z.)
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That is actually on my to do list, where did you get the screen parts?
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where did you get the screen parts?
http://www.kinro.com/index.php?optio...&id=9&Itemid=7

I started by calling Jayco to see who made the window. They said they didn't know because they get them from different suppliers and it could have been anyone of them. I found markings on the glass that led me to Kinro. They have all the parts available on the web.

Kinro was very easy to deal with - good customer service.
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Not sure who you talked to at Kinro, but so far I am not having much luck.
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amabee, I don't remember who I talked to. I did find another link, http://www.kinrowindows.net/page6.html and I remember being on that page. I think you have a F200SVSE. Try going from there. Good luck.
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I've seen people do mods like this on other campers, but I'm left scratching my head as to why you would do this one on a hybrid? Opening up some of the zippers on both ends of the bunks should give you all the ventilation you need. I'm not criticizing, just curious.
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Do you have any part numbers? They have the corners but claim they have no screen channel?
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I've seen people do mods like this on other campers, but I'm left scratching my head as to why you would do this one on a hybrid? Opening up some of the zippers on both ends of the bunks should give you all the ventilation you need. I'm not criticizing, just curious.
I can only answer for myself, we came from a popup and one of the great things was being able to open everything up. At times you can't have to much air movement. We don't plan to use the AC anymore than absolutely necessary. Plus it seems like such a waste of a big window.
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I can only answer for myself, we came from a popup and one of the great things was being able to open everything up. At times you can't have to much air movement. We don't plan to use the AC anymore than absolutely necessary. Plus it seems like such a waste of a big window.
But you have 3 huge panels you can open on each bunk end.
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Interesting, our hybrid emergency exit window has a screen on it, and a bar to open the window from the inside. In the case of an emergency you should be able (really easily) push out the screen.
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Interesting, our hybrid emergency exit window has a screen on it, and a bar to open the window from the inside. In the case of an emergency you should be able (really easily) push out the screen.
That seems like a much better way to go - and it sure would have saved me the effort of having to make one. You have a 2012 model which is newer than mine, so maybe Jayco started doing that as a result of customer feedback. That push rod is what I like. I have to go outside to take my screen out.

I went down the same path amabee is going now. Getting the parts was harder than putting them together.
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Do you have any part numbers? They have the corners but claim they have no screen channel?
Sorry, I don't. I made that about a year ago and I didn't save the reps name that I dealt with. Now that you mention it, I think he did go through the factory to get the channels, and they arrived separately.

If the radius pieces fit standard screen hardware, you could get the rest of the stuff at any hardware store. The clips to hold the screen in place make a neat job, but they're not necessary. There are several different types of screen securement available.
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To be honest, I may just go back to my original plan. It may just be who I talked to, but I called twice and got the same person both times. I asked about getting the channel from the factory, he said they can't do that. I had just planned on making a rectangular screen to use on the inside, the only time it would be used is when the window is open.
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Adding a screen to that window was one of the first mods I did. I put Velcro all around the window, and added the matching Velcro to a piece of screen (cut to the shape of the window). I can remove the screen when needed (cleaning the window, during the winter, etc), and I can undo the bottom of the screen to latch and unlatch the window.
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I've seen people do mods like this on other campers, but I'm left scratching my head as to why you would do this one on a hybrid? Opening up some of the zippers on both ends of the bunks should give you all the ventilation you need. I'm not criticizing, just curious.
I did it to get more air flow. There is only one small window that opens on the road side of the camper. Being able to open the big window and not have bugs come in is great. When it is raining the bunkend windows have to be closed most of the way. When camping at the beach without electric, all air flow is great to have.
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Adding a screen to that window was one of the first mods I did. I put Velcro all around the window, and added the matching Velcro to a piece of screen (cut to the shape of the window). I can remove the screen when needed (cleaning the window, during the winter, etc), and I can undo the bottom of the screen to latch and unlatch the window.
That's a really good idea, heck I've got a big roll of window screen. Thanks.
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That's a really good idea, heck I've got a big roll of window screen. Thanks.
Your welcome. I use a piece of 1 inch PVC to hold the window open. If I need to close the window and don't want to go outside I just push the window open and the PVC pipe falls out.
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