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Old 07-15-2015, 05:16 PM   #1
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2015 vs 2016 WhiteHawk 25BHS

You how good you feel when the latest model of your "new" car comes out and you don't like the styling as much as yours and the price has increased over $3K? Well that's how my DW & I feel about our 2015 WhiteHawk 25BHS compared to the 2016.

We dislike:
1) The island and loss of cabinet space,
2) The door in bathroom,
3) The added weight (Vehicle weight up 820 lbs & Dry Hitch up 90 lbs), and,
4) The added cost of $3343 over ours with similar options.

I believe a standard 1/2 ton TV will struggle towing the 2016 up medium grades. I know my previous 2007 GMC 1500 5.3L would. Our 2015 was bad enough.

We like:
1) That the outdoor kitchen is now standard, and,
2) That the kitchen slides out.

If we were looking to buy a 2016 to be towed with the 1/2 ton TV, we would probably have to look at a different model.

Compare your model with the 2016 model and share your likes & dislikes. We'd like to hear from you and I suspect the factory would like the feedback.

Please, no bashing of inputs by fellow owners.

Ken
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Old 07-16-2015, 09:52 AM   #2
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Another difference, exterior storage latches ... can the locks still be changed-out? IMHO, that is a mod necessary for every camping vehicle so you no longer have the CH751 key but rather a set of locks with a self-determined combination code!
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We dislike the same things!
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You how good you feel when the latest model of your "new" car comes out and you don't like the styling as much as yours and the price has increased over $3K? Well that's how my DW & I feel about our 2015 WhiteHawk 25BHS compared to the 2016.

We dislike:
1) The island and loss of cabinet space,
2) The door in bathroom,
3) The added weight (Vehicle weight up 820 lbs & Dry Hitch up 90 lbs), and,
4) The added cost of $3343 over ours with similar options.

I believe a standard 1/2 ton TV will struggle towing the 2016 up medium grades. I know my previous 2007 GMC 1500 5.3L would. Our 2015 was bad enough.

We like:
1) That the outdoor kitchen is now standard, and,
2) That the kitchen slides out.

If we were looking to buy a 2016 to be towed with the 1/2 ton TV, we would probably have to look at a different model.

Compare your model with the 2016 model and share your likes & dislikes. We'd like to hear from you and I suspect the factory would like the feedback.

Please, no bashing of inputs by fellow owners.

Ken

Well, everyone is ignoring my thread on the 2016 White Hawk, so I'll bump this one.

We are purchasing a 2016 25BHS currently, take delivery this weekend. I think the added weight that you reference is almost all in the floor, correct? I think for 2016 they went to a solid wood floor, rather than the sandwich construction. I am pleased they chose solid wood, personally, it's worth it to me if the trailer weighs a little more.


We REALLY like the rear door in the bathroom, creates a mudroom, and a place for kids to go to take care of business without tracking through the trailer. The 25BHS was the smallest trailer we looked at with this option and weighed heavily on our buying decision.

As for the island, I could take it or leave it. Didn't love it, didn't hate it.


You are correct though, the added weight puts this trailer right on the edge of 1/2 ton GVWR. I just bough a 2015 Ecoboost with the max tow package so the pulling weight is not an issue at all, however, the tongue weight is. It's a fair point. We will be within range of the 7000 GVWR, but not as much breathing room as the 2015 model.


How have you liked your trailer? We're excited, curious if you have any advice or feedback on owning this model.
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One thing I would like to add... I have a major gripe with the outdoor kitchen. Why would they not put a sink in? What is more important to an outdoor kitchen than running water? Honestly, I'd rather they leave the stove out and put the sink in (<---exaggeration, for effect).

Will be looking for a camp sink to use. Stinks that they skimped here.

Other than that, good job Jayco. Nice design.
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Outside kitchen aka "Man Kitchen"

What makes a good outside kitchen? We call it the "Man Kitchen" where the DH is the "Master of the Universe" as it is 100% his domain! Needless to say, I gleefully stay out of this space.
BBQ: He cooks most dinners on it, and I clean it ... but SO handy and no splatters.
COOKTOP: To keep moisture down within the TT, we always brew our coffee on the outside cooktop. I may help-out with frying the eggs outdoors (again, reduces inside splatters) but I frequently use the oven for egg casseroles (recipe posted elsewhere in forum).
FRIDGE: No comments needed here - we know whose drinks are kept cold (when we have electricity).
SINK: Many have posted elsewhere that the temperature-adjustable outdoor shower is often used in lieu ... like to rinse veggies or fill dish tubs (and we know who washes the dishes). In our outdoor kitchen we have paper towels, hand-wipes, and soap-less lotion and that seems to suffice and result in one less sink for me to keep clean. Keep in mind one of the biggest problems with TTs is the gray tanks fill-up so much faster than the black tanks ~ not fun when dry-camping!
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Hi Zoony,

Congrats on the new TT. I see your point about the door in the bathroom if you have little ones. We don't have kids so we prefer the wall space for towels and our standalone set of drawers with a complete set of bathroom stuff just like we have in our home bathroom.

I have mixed feelings about the floor structure. I've read that the typical floor system is stronger but I like the sandwich flooring because it is warmer in the winter. I may change my mind if ours gets spongy and starts delaminating.

The outdoor kitchen is one of our favorite features. I disagree with your complaint about the outdoor kitchen. The cooktop really helps reduce the moisture inside the TT. We do most of our cooking outside on the cooktop and/or bumper mounted grill and DW does most of the dishwashing in a pan outside when we are dry camping to conserve our fresh water and to slow down filling up the gray water tank. So we wouldn't use the outdoor sink even if we had one.

Anyway, enjoy. I'm sure you'll love it.

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Old 10-05-2016, 05:55 PM   #8
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After much consideration, we removed the microwave and refrigerator today from our outdoor kitchen to give us more storage space for our outdoor cooking equipment and supplies. After 2 years and many trips, we realized we weren't using either appliance and would rather have the added cargo space. We plan to use both appliances in our pool house and will reinstall them if we decide to sell the trailer.

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We don't have this WH model. However, the refrigerator is good in my opinion but my husband has talked about taking it out. We would rather have more storage space than the whole kitchen. Right now we cook outdoors on an induction burner on a small folding table provided we have electric. Otherwise having gas in the outdoor kitchen would be a benefit. We do most of our cooking outdoors. Before we got the induction burner, we would cook on the Coleman Roadtrip grill in a cast iron skillet. The outdoor kitchen is a nice option if you get a lot of use. Otherwise it is a waste of space. At he end of the day, it is just a matter of the owners wants, needs and personal preference.
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We have a 2016 Whithawk 25BHS with a 2014 F150, 5.0 l V8. No issues at all with towing. Like the 2 slides and having the island in the center is not really an issue. Dislike the bunks. Too confined for adults/ older teens, but prob great for my 7 Year old nephew. Thinking about removing the top bunk to make the space more of a bunk/sitting up area where you could have a more comfortable space.
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