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Old 06-21-2014, 10:38 PM   #151
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Thanks everyone! It has been a wild couple days- drove down to pickup late on Thursday- about 400+ miles, then yesterday drove the last 50 miles for a 10 am appointment. Walk though took about 1.5 hours, only caught a small blemish (missed that the screen door doesn't latch!). Bought a couple accessories at the dealer store: decent sewage hose, clear sewage elbow, a mat that straps onto the step, oh yeah and the weight dist hitch... Black tank chems, tp, etc. then proceeded to pull it through LA traffic, when of course my 4yo boy needed to stop several times to go to the bathroom- somehow on one of the emergency potty stops we ended up cruising through Compton with my shiny new trailer! Funny experience for sure. We leave tomorrow from inlaws for our first camping trip at the beach followed by 5 nights in the redwoods... Not exactly easing into it, or how I would have planned it, but events converged in a way that could not have been predicted.

@bc- thanks for the tips! That propane fire pit sounds sweet! Thanks for the offer to help me spend my money; but I think I have already done that successfully
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Old 07-07-2014, 09:01 PM   #152
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Quick Question about the X213 Gray Tank Vent

Hey Guys, don't mean to hi-jack the discussion but thought I would post this question here since there is a good many X213 owners discussing their experiences with the unit. Question is, where does your gray tank vent pipe stub up? I noticed in my last outing, this past weekend, that I saw a bit of a water leak under my door side front tire on the unit. Got to looking around and did not see any plumbing issues with the exception of the a pipe that stubbed up under the kitchen sink. There was a little water on the floor around this pipe and it had just started dripping down outside on the ground in front of the front tire. Pulled the ladder out and looked on the roof and one vent pipe. I also had another incident with this past trip that was a real eye opener with this arrangement, and I do mean a real eye opener. When we camp in a full hook up environment for an extended stay, I have left the gray tank valve opened since showers consume a bit of water and no point running back and forth a couple of times a day draining the tank to keep the bathing process going. Well, I didn't close the valve and got a little warm so on with the AC. No sooner than I could get laid down and comfortable, this horrible smell completely filled the unit. It was literally intolerable to the point that we got up, opened all windows, turned off the AC and immediately closed the gray tank valve. About 45 minutes later the smell was gone. But my lapsed minded self made the same mistake two days later and again, a foul smell that really took your breath away.

So having said all that, has anyone else experienced this issue and is that truly the gray tank stub up? All my past travel trailers have always had the vent pipes for both black and gray tanks stub above the roof, but not this one. I really like the unit which we now have had and used on two different trips but that leak and smell issue is dampening my enjoyment. Also for the record, the tank level according to the panel was at 2/3 (accurate not so sure).

By the way, my X213 is a 2012 model which I purchased used first part of this year.

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Old 07-07-2014, 09:44 PM   #153
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Quick Question about the X213 Gray Tank Vent Partially Answered

Hey guys, I did some more searching on the site here and think I have found the solution to my sewer gas smell. Basically the fix is having a trap formed right at where the sewer hose connects to the sewer connector. And also, it helps to have your ladder when looking at the roof in the correct line of site, there are two vents up there and I should have remembered this since I have already cleaned and treated the roof on the unit twice . Another lapse of thought on my part.

I still have the question about the water found dripping to the outside and under the cabinet around this pipe stub up. Any ideas there as to if the tank maybe was a little too full and it pushed a little excess out that pipe? Not sure how accurate the panel readings are but it stated 2/3 full on the gray tank.

Thanks again for overlooking my momentary lapse of memory.

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Old 07-07-2014, 11:34 PM   #154
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Hey guys, I did some more searching on the site here and think I have found the solution to my sewer gas smell. Basically the fix is having a trap formed right at where the sewer hose connects to the sewer connector. And also, it helps to have your ladder when looking at the roof in the correct line of site, there are two vents up there and I should have remembered this since I have already cleaned and treated the roof on the unit twice . Another lapse of thought on my part.

I still have the question about the water found dripping to the outside and under the cabinet around this pipe stub up. Any ideas there as to if the tank maybe was a little too full and it pushed a little excess out that pipe? Not sure how accurate the panel readings are but it stated 2/3 full on the gray tank.

Thanks again for overlooking my momentary lapse of memory.



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Yup, fresh water tank overflow, curb side behind the tire.
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Old 07-08-2014, 08:25 AM   #155
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Yup, fresh water tank overflow, curb side behind the tire.
I may be confused with the statement above, you said fresh water tank overflow but the water I see dripping outside is in front of the door/curb side tire not behind it and my fresh water tank is completely empty. I am going to crawl around under there this weekend to further investigate what is going on since it has now happened twice. Just couldn't understand why all plumbing pipes were dry except for the one that stubs up and there was water on the floor around it. I'll keep checking on it though.

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Old 07-08-2014, 01:23 PM   #156
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@Slogan: So I am totally newbie here, but on your two issues:

the smell: it seems like while connected if you leave your gray tank open, you would get the backflow of sewer air into your trailer. Your fix of a trap to make the flow of water or fumes one way seems like a good idea... or closing your gray tank valve would do the trick.

dripping water: I think the freshwater overflow drips water only when sloshing around, parked at an angle, or when too full... I dont think it would drip if your tank was empty. The freshwater overflow is curb side behind the rear wheel, and is a short white hose hanging down, right next to your FW tank. On the driver side is the low point drain valve, which could drip if it isn't closed. I am not really sure from what you are saying if the source of the water is on the inside our outside of your trailer, but I was surprised by my FW overflow hose leaking before my tank was filled, when parked at a little bit of an angle.

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Old 07-08-2014, 01:54 PM   #157
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@Slogan: So I am totally newbie here, but on your two issues:

the smell: it seems like while connected if you leave your gray tank open, you would get the backflow of sewer air into your trailer. Your fix of a trap to make the flow of water or fumes one way seems like a good idea... or closing your gray tank valve would do the trick.

dripping water: I think the freshwater overflow drips water only when sloshing around, parked at an angle, or when too full... I dont think it would drip if your tank was empty. The freshwater overflow is curb side behind the rear wheel, and is a short white hose hanging down, right next to your FW tank. On the driver side is the low point drain valve, which could drip if it isn't closed. I am not really sure from what you are saying if the source of the water is on the inside our outside of your trailer, but I was surprised by my FW overflow hose leaking before my tank was filled, when parked at a little bit of an angle.

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Thanks Dan, the dripping water is coming from the inside directly from under the kitchen sink area then making its way outside directly in front of the curbside/door side tire. When I first noticed it I immediately went inside and looked under the sink and could not locate any damp pipes other than the pipe that is stubbed up under the sink. There was a bit of water on the floor which was immediately wiped up. The fresh water tank doesn't have any water at all in it so that rules it out. I'm going to climb around under this weekend and do more investigating.

Thanks for the advice though.

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As for your leak, I too had water in the same area that you are speaking of. My issue was loose supply line connections under the sink area of my 2011 X213. I encounter this problem twice when it was new. All I needed to do was tighten up the connections in that area and the problem was solved. If i remember correct there are a few tee connectors on the water lines that are a little tough to get to, i may have even had to remove a thin plywood panel to access the lines. Not sure if that helps you or not, but that was my experience.

This stubbed pipe you are speaking of, is it maybe a cheater valve vent of some sort that might be deffective?

Can you tell i the leaking water is clean or grey water?
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As for your leak, I too had water in the same area that you are speaking of. My issue was loose supply line connections under the sink area of my 2011 X213. I encounter this problem twice when it was new. All I needed to do was tighten up the connections in that area and the problem was solved. If i remember correct there are a few tee connectors on the water lines that are a little tough to get to, i may have even had to remove a thin plywood panel to access the lines. Not sure if that helps you or not, but that was my experience.

This stubbed pipe you are speaking of, is it maybe a cheater valve vent of some sort that might be deffective?

Can you tell i the leaking water is clean or grey water?


Thanks for all the suggestions and that is definitely on my list of checks again for this weekend. I plan on removing that panel you speak of and looking at every fitting under the sink. I also plan on filling both sides of the sink with water to see if the leak is in the sink itself if I can't detect any fitting issues. As far as telling if it was grey or clean water, I couldn't really tell but will fill the grey tank if I can't find any issues with the items under the sink to see if I can duplicate the issue experienced.

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Sorry, I should have read your post with my glasses on...your water pump is in that area under the dinette seat. There is 2 Philips screws that hold the cover on
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