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05-19-2016, 08:48 AM
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Jayfeather. Poop never drops down into the black water tank. It gets hung
30' 2008 jayfeather toilet always clogs about a foot below the floor. Not a complete clog as water will go around the pile of poop you see but the poop will still sit there?
My tank has some water in it but maybe not enough I'm not sure.
I shine a flashlight down my toilet and often see poop sitting on this black plastic.
I think that that is a flap but maybe it's the bottom of the black water tank?
I'm not sure how the plumbing works on the jayfeather septic system?
In order to clean the pile of poo that I see I normally get a hose from outside aND wash the poo off the black plastic horizontal surface.
I also have 26' 2004 outback and I never have any septic system problems.
It's a smelly problem right now
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05-19-2016, 09:17 AM
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You need less fiber!
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05-19-2016, 09:23 AM
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Do you have a clog or "poop pyramid"?
More water with each flush. Allow the bowl to fill 1/2 way before opening the dump valve when flushing solids.
Dumping the black tank will go much better when things are thinned out.
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05-19-2016, 09:24 AM
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Try Ex-lax chocolate for desert to loosen the stuff up so it doesn't clump in one place. You know, goes with the flow! Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
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05-19-2016, 09:25 AM
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It sounds like you're looking at the tank bottom. Maybe start out with more water in the tank to keep things moving, and longer flushes.
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05-19-2016, 09:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mike837go
Do you have a clog or "poop pyramid"?
More water with each flush. Allow the bowl to fill 1/2 way before opening the dump valve when flushing solids.
Dumping the black tank will go much better when things are thinned out.
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Also, this:
http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B000BPB346
Depending on how bad it is, maybe wear goggles! LOL
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05-19-2016, 10:25 AM
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Thank you sooooo much for not providing pictures!
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05-19-2016, 10:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by watermonkey
thank you sooooo much for not providing pictures!
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lol!
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05-19-2016, 11:06 AM
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Quote:
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Thank you sooooo much for not providing pictures!
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A challenge like that cannot go unanswered!
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05-19-2016, 12:08 PM
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Poop pyramid
You're right. It's 100% not a clog it's a poop pyramid.
Well maybe it's the bottom of the tank but it looked like a baffle, cause now that I think about it... I have a lot of water in my tank and I still see the poop pyramid.
How wide deep is an rv black water tank typically.
Filling up the bowl with water before the flush is a great idea.
I don't think where the poop pyramid is sitting is the bottom of the tank.
Does anyone know how the plumbing works for toilet to tank.
Does the toilet dump directly into a open tank?
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05-19-2016, 12:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbabich
You're right. It's 100% not a clog it's a poop pyramid.
Well maybe it's the bottom of the tank but it looked like a baffle, cause now that I think about it... I have a lot of water in my tank and I still see the poop pyramid.
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How wide deep is an rv black water tank typically. - Totally dependent on capacity.
Filling up the bowl with water before the flush is a great idea. - Try and dilute the poo
I don't think where the poop pyramid is sitting is the bottom of the tank.- it is.
Does anyone know how the plumbing works for toilet to tank. - Very simple: the toilet is over the tank.
Does the toilet dump directly into a open tank? Yup, zero plumbing between the dump valve and the tank.
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05-19-2016, 12:20 PM
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The tanks are very shallow. 5-6" at best.
Yes, the toilet dumps directly into the black tank.
The plumbing is basically just water flow as you depress the pedal then dropping directly into the black tank.
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05-19-2016, 12:22 PM
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Oops. Ha ha. Well boy do I feel like a dummy. That's good to know.
So how long do you have to pull the lever to fill the tank with fresh water to give it some float water once you're drained your tank.
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05-19-2016, 12:23 PM
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Yes 5 to 6 inches makes sense then. Yes it's about that far below the floor that it always sits.
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05-19-2016, 12:25 PM
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It doesn't take a lot. Basically, you're keeping the poo from dropping directly onto a dry tank bottom, hence poo pyramid. You want it to mix with the water with the chemicals so it can be broken down.
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05-19-2016, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbabich
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So how long do you have to pull the lever to fill the tank with fresh water to give it some float water once you're drained your tank.
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Fill the bowl to the rim and flush. That'll give enough clear water to loosen things up during the next drive.
There's a thread or three around here about putting powdered water softener and laundry detergent in the black tank between uses to keep the sensor probes clean.
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05-19-2016, 12:28 PM
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Well that's great. I was like daaaarn. I hate this Jayfeather cause the toilet is defective.
Second note. ...
I paid $8,000 for this 30' Jay feather with one slide last august.
Is that a fair price? It's in good shape
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05-20-2016, 08:26 PM
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My Jayco Skylark has a black tank for the black water, but there is a white baffle directly below where stuff drops out of the toilet to the tank. More water per flush helps some, but some stuff stays on the baffle no matter what.
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