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Old 05-04-2010, 07:17 PM   #1
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Blowouts, Axle Alignment, Tire Load Rating, GVWR

We have a 2008 JayFeather 30u bumper pull that we bought new in 2009. We took several trips in '09 without a problem. Then our first trip in 2010 we noticed the wheels were rubbing the wheel wells and thanks to the internet we discovered that this is a known issue. We took it back to the dealer and Jayco replaced the axles under warranty for no charge which was great.

Last weekend we took a short 150 mile round trip getaway and had two catastrophic blowouts, both on the right side of the trailer, one on the way there and one on the way back. Both times the electric brake wires were ripped loose and aluminum trim was demolished. This is my third travel trailer and I have never had so much as a flat ever before.

I have read multiple opinions on this issue. Some people say the axles being out of alignment will cause this problem.

Many others have experienced problems with their Goodyear Marathon tires which is what mine were. Also the GVWR on this trailer is 7500 pounds but my original factory tires are load range c or 1760 pounds so 1760 x 4 = 7040 which to me means my tires are not rated to carry the full weight of my trailer in the first place. Someone somewhere said that is because the hitch carries some of the weight but that is not logical in my opinion.

Also I learned to read the date code on my tires and they were manufactured in 2006. So my 2008 trailer that I bought new in 2009 already had 3 year old tires when I originally bought it from the Jayco dealer.

The point is: What do you think the cause is of the blowouts and what should I do to fix the problem? I have the 7 year extended factory warranty. Should I try to make them replace the tires and fix the brakes and trim? How would you proceed?

Any thoughts would be appreciated!
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:20 PM   #2
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Re: warranty... what does it say? Are the tires covered? There are lots of warranties out there, so it will depend on which you have and the fine print it entails.

It's kinda scary that we had some blow-out issues with our previous trailer (Casita) and there were some "issues" with that particular factory tire. Don and I tried to get some resolve with this but failed. We wound up just buying new ones and moving on. Now, we have the same brand tires as you on our Jayco so I will be watching this thread. Please keep us apprised of what you find out and what you are able to do.
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ooops sorry, just noticed you are new here! Welcome to the Jayco Owners Forum Penny's!!!
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VERY interested in following this thread - I never put a second thought to the stock tires on the Jayco - I'll be inspecting my tires/axle often. I also never really considered the tires on my TV either - the Envoy is supposed to be well set up for towing but now you have me wondering. Tires on the Envoy are stock as well (only have 20k on the truck, even though it's an '05). Should I start considering replacing ALL tires???? OMG...that's...count 'em... 8 tires!!!!
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:13 PM   #5
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I never thought about it either, McMonk. Until the second tire blew, this one on the way back, right where Interstate 635 and Interstate 20 merge together thereby leaving me on a VERY busy and dangerous shoulder of the road with my body underneath a trailer and my kids and wife waiting in the grass on the median.

There is more info on this on the rv net forum because i am getting more responses there. Search 2 blowouts.
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I also never really considered the tires on my TV either - the Envoy is supposed to be well set up for towing but now you have me wondering. Tires on the Envoy are stock as well (only have 20k on the truck, even though it's an '05). Should I start considering replacing ALL tires???? OMG...that's...count 'em... 8 tires!!!!
When we bought the Ford Platinum F-150, it came with some really cool 20" P rated tires/wheels.... but.... we wanted the bells and whistles with towing in mind. So part of the deal was to put the smaller 18" wheels/tires that would accomodate the load we would pull (had already picked out our new Jayco tt). Whatever you need to do to make towing safe, but that sure would have to suck to get 8 new tires!!!!
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Blowouts!

I am brand new to this forum and could not wait for introductions to voice my opinions and experiences on this subject. I bought my Jayco Octane 24Z Toy Hauler brand new in '07. I took a 900 mile trip with it the first week, hauling dirtbikes up into north Georgia, then a significant road trip of 3,000 miles with a waverunner loaded inside. I am speculating I put on just about 6,000 miles total hauling this type of loads (about 9,000 lbs total) when I experienced the first tire blowout, which took some life out of the wheel well and side of my hauler. Then the next trip another, then some short time later another one went while it was parked in my yard! Only the second of the three gave me some warning as I inspect them pretty closely before travel and I could see the tread was seperated.

All of this experience was with the GoodYear Marathon tires that came on the trailer from Jayco. These tires were class D, 2,540 lb max rating..... On a trailer that is rated with a 10,250 GVW!!!!!!! Let's see.... 2,540 x 4 = 10,160! Doesn't add up. Needless to say, I have replaced three of four with class E, 2,830 lb rating Carlisle Radial Trail tires. The fourth, which was actually the first one I had to replace, I was dumb enough to get another Marathon. Jayco sure screwed me on that one with no support from the dealer, nor from GoodYear, since there was over 1/32" wear on the tires. Come on! I wear that much off of them just backing into my driveway a couple times!

I have since found out that GoodYear Marathon tires are now made in China, so anyone having good experiences with these tires in the past should beware on new replacements.

Sure do love my camper though, especially when my 4 yr old says, "Daddy, I wanna go camping and ride motorcycles"!
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I too question the idea of a 15in tire on our 330 with the added weight of 3 slides. The only good thing I can see is that the wheels are 6 bolt and I can swap them out for 16in load range E in the future.

Most of the GoodYear trailer tires are now from China. The bean counters are at it again.
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Healthi knows I just got my Jayco this Novemeber... Well I've already got plans to head down to Ontario, OR to replace all tires on my TT over to a 225/75 R15 Load Range E...

Currently the two rear tires are wore on the inside. (Towed by the previous owner to high on the hitch). And I got 1 load range C and the other 3 are Load range D's...

So to prevent having a failure I plan on replacing them all before I start my season.

Also now talking to a few friends that town heavy daily. When ever you stop some where and get out of the TV just walk back and put your hands on the tires and hubs and feel for excessive heat. If the tires are hot then you got a problem... Hubs are hot and you havn't been using the brakes much you have bearing problem. If everything is working properly nothing should be hot. (Warm yes but not hot)
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Mopar, just get a thermal gun from Harbor Freight. I use mine at every stop for tires and bearing heat.
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I believe there is hours of reading ands dozens of threads on RV.net about Chinese trailer tires and all their issues. I have the aforementioned China Marathons on my TT and will be watching them closely. The tires that seem to get the best reviews are the Maxxis. It is becoming almost impossible to find American made ST tires.

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One of the local trailer dealers here (not Jayco) suggests using P tires or LT tires, instead of ST, as a way to avoid China. Load rating may require 16 inch instead of 15 inch. Something to think about.
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We have a 2008 JayFeather
Many others have experienced problems with their Goodyear Marathon tires which is what mine were. Also the GVWR on this trailer is 7500 pounds but my original factory tires are load range c or 1760 pounds so 1760 x 4 = 7040 which to me means my tires are not rated to carry the full weight of my trailer in the first place. Someone somewhere said that is because the hitch carries some of the weight but that is not logical in my opinion.
Any thoughts would be appreciated!
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The hitch should carry 10-15% of the weight... if it does not you will get sway..
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