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05-11-2013, 08:22 AM
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Fridge running on 12v power while in storage... solar?
Our trailer is parked in storage all summer at the camp ground and taken to a site every two weeks. As we'd like to leave the fridge running on 12v power (no power in storage area) and the house batt certainly won't hold for two weeks, I was thinking a solar panal would be the order of the day. Assuming stock house battery, I think 85amp hr, fridge running just on 12v, no gas.. and fantom power from detectors, radio etc. How large a panal would one need to install? Any help would be appreciated.
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05-11-2013, 09:11 AM
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Solar would need to be 300+ watts. Plus an 85 amp-hour battery would not survive the night with that kind of a load. The cheapest method to run the refrigeration without shore power is propane. You will still need 12V for the control board but that is a small draw.
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05-11-2013, 02:55 PM
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05-11-2013, 05:50 PM
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hmmm well then. lol
so let's step back a bit.
5.5 cubic foot Norcold, Gas/12 Volt fridge.
Norcold saying 2amp draw.
How much propane would one use say per day of use?
we can figure out the solar if the propane won't kill the bank.
Costco propane is about $15 for a 30lb tank. I'd not mind buying a second tank and rotating every two weeks.... if that is sufficient.
If that would work.. then how much solar/battery would one need?
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05-11-2013, 05:59 PM
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Is it safe to keep your fridge running on propane while in storage? I also store mine at a campground and go down about once or twice a month in the summer. I hate the wait for the fridge to get cold.
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05-11-2013, 06:07 PM
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In this case, "storage" is a fenced in parking lot. Honestly, if I have to get into more/bigger battery .. it's just not worth it for me. We don't boondock. It's just to be able to keep the beer cold and the hamburgers frozen and save dragging them back and forth each time.
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05-11-2013, 08:47 PM
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You will be surprised at how little propane your refrigerator uses. A bigger problem would be the sensors in the trailer. They will draw down a battery in just a few days. I would disconnect the sensors, (pull the fuses) and then use the propane part of your refrigerator. Don't forget to reinstall the fuses when you use the trailer.
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05-12-2013, 03:59 AM
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dddire, you did not state what camper you have but I will bet your refrigerator will not run on 12V alone. It is most likely a 2-way. 110V and gas. I could be wrong. If you could run off of 12V alone on solar power the cost would be prohibitive. $1000+ for solar panels large enough and probably another $500 in batteries with enough capacity to do this. I have not done detailed research on these costs. These are just guesstimates. But it will be high.
A 20# bottle of propane would run the refrigerator for several months. You might consider 20 watts of solar to keep the battery up while it maintains the radio, propane detector and the refrigerator control board.
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05-12-2013, 05:05 AM
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BTW, that 2 amp draw you saw is for 120V. Translate that to 12 volts power and it becomes 20 amps. So that would kill your 85 amp-hour battery in less than 4 hours. But, as I previously stated, I don't think your refrigerator will run on 12V alone.
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05-12-2013, 06:17 AM
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will your storage facility allow it to be running (LP flame) while stored? Alot of the ones around here the TT are piled in so tight the is barely enough room to walk between them. I was just thinking from a CYA insurance standpoint from the storage owners prospective.
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05-12-2013, 09:19 AM
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We have a X17z...
fridge is 2 way, gas/120... so my thinking of running on solar only was off...
but it looks like running on Gas/solar to run the electrics would work rather well.
Now just to decide if I just want to bubble gum/shoe string a small panel with blocking diode and "hide" it from view in storage, or go the whole enchilada and mount something more powerful on the roof and be done with it. As I said, we don't boon dock.. and the only time we did, the house batt held up decently. (Note, we installed LED lights.)
Good call on pulling the fuse for detectors and radio..
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05-12-2013, 05:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tnchuck100
Solar would need to be 300+ watts. Plus an 85 amp-hour battery would not survive the night with that kind of a load. The cheapest method to run the refrigeration without shore power is propane. You will still need 12V for the control board but that is a small draw.
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X3 A tank will last you a month or more just running the refrigerator.
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07-20-2013, 04:34 PM
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I know that this thread is not entity recent, but with a big solar panel and a timer switch modified to operate DC power, you could run it during the day and turn it off at night.
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