Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
Jayco RV Owners Forum
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 07-13-2017, 07:28 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
blujay40's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Michigan
Posts: 940
Not ducted together?!?!

We have 2 AC's in our 330RSTS and the one in the LR is the whisper quiet setup where the one in the bedroom has the removable ceiling panel to access the bottom of the AC with it's own "chill" vents that can be opened to allow direct air flow, or closed to use the helix ductwork in the ceiling. We were told from day one, not only from the salesmen, but Jayco (during a chat with a rep), and many others that already owned the same model, that the two AC's are ducted together and were designed to work in tandem.

After using the AC a few times, I noticed two separate things about the air flow from the AC ceiling vents. First was that the bedroom AC ceiling vents didn't have nearly the air flow that the LR ones did when running the corresponding AC units. So I pulled the ceiling panel from the bedroom AC and immediately saw where the holes were cut (or should I say "punched") thru the insulation board on each side to allow cooled air into the helix duct work. However, the holes were woefully small compared to the cutout in the AC unit itself and the ductwork, about the size of baseball. So I trimmed away the excess so that the hole matched the rectangular hole on the AC unit and duct taped the edges between the AC unit and the helix ductwork to seal it up. The airflow out of the two BR ceiling vents was now equal to or even a little better than the LR ducts were.

The second issue I noticed from day one, regardless whether one or both of the AC's were running at the time, was that the air flow to the camp side row of ceiling vents always had MUCH more airflow than the driver side vents did. From my experience with the BR vents, and seeing how things are attached to the duct work, my suspicion is that the same issue of a woefully small hole, or more likely, one hole smaller than the other was "punched" thru the insulation board on the LR AC unit, or that there was another issue that was allowing substantial air loss on that side of the duct work. But because that AC unit is inaccessible thru the LR ceiling due to the whisper quiet setup, I didn't know how to look for that, or any other possible issues and decided to add it to my punch list of issues and leave it until we took it in for warranty work. It worked ok for now, but wasn't where I felt it should be, especially after my experience with the BR AC install.

When we picked up the unit a few weeks ago and were going over the repairs that were completed, they mentioned they "fixed" the AC air flow issue. They mentioned something about air loss thru the BR AC and that the system was just pushing all the cold air OUT thru the BR AC! Not wanting to get into a lengthy discussion or otherwise "lose my cool" (pun intended), I moved on with the rest of the repairs.

So when I got the unit back home, I immediately took a look at what they did. Their "fix" was to just tape off the holes to the helix duct work in the BR AC unit that I had previously trimmed out to INCREASE air flow from that unit into the ceiling vents, and opened up the BR AC "chill" vents in the ceiling panel! So now, the LR AC was the ONLY unit feeding the helix duct work and opened up the "chill" vents on the BR ceiling panel! I removed the "fix" and put it back to the way it should be for now until I figure out if there is anything else I can do to fix it myself.

Since then, I have noticed another possible contributor to my ills when I pulled the LR ceiling vent cowl. I have a lot of cooled air flowing between the ceiling insulation and the ceiling panels which means there is a pretty substantial leak somewhere. I have already found posts that recommend to pull all the ceiling vents and sealing the gap between the ductwork and the ceiling panels to prevent as much air loss as I can around those vents, and plan to do that shortly.

But can anyone suggest anything else I might be able to check out/repair on my own to address additional air leaks?

TIA,

J
__________________
2018 GMC Sierra 3500HD Denali 4WD LB SRW 6.6L Duramax
2017 Jayco Eagle 330RSTS
blujay40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2017, 07:49 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
Grumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Where ever the boss says we're going.
Posts: 16,081
We have always had more air flow from one side vs the other in every unit we've had with a ducted system. It has something to do with the physics of how the fan pushes the air.

The same thing happens on a home system, but there dampers are installed so you can balance the flow.
__________________
DISNEY LOVERS
Grumpy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2017, 10:15 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
blujay40's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Michigan
Posts: 940
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
We have always had more air flow from one side vs the other in every unit we've had with a ducted system. It has something to do with the physics of how the fan pushes the air.

The same thing happens on a home system, but there dampers are installed so you can balance the flow.
Good to know. As always, something else new to learn about these things. Thanks Grumpy!
__________________
2018 GMC Sierra 3500HD Denali 4WD LB SRW 6.6L Duramax
2017 Jayco Eagle 330RSTS
blujay40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-19-2018, 07:13 AM   #4
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Dewey
Posts: 45
Quote:
Originally Posted by blujay40 View Post
Good to know. As always, something else new to learn about these things. Thanks Grumpy!
I have the same set up and similar problem you have. The dealer found and “fixed” an obstruction issue but with only four LR vents the cooling is still inadequate. And that us with both units on high and the BR plenum closed off. I wonder if the LR unit could be converted to a straight through system? I know that it would be louder but at least i could dump a ton of cold air in at once when we get to camp and it is freakin hot out!!
Grandpawlee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-19-2018, 07:17 AM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Dewey
Posts: 45
Quote:
Originally Posted by blujay40 View Post
We have 2 AC's in our 330RSTS and the one in the LR is the whisper quiet setup where the one in the bedroom has the removable ceiling panel to access the bottom of the AC with it's own "chill" vents that can be opened to allow direct air flow, or closed to use the helix ductwork in the ceiling. We were told from day one, not only from the salesmen, but Jayco (during a chat with a rep), and many others that already owned the same model, that the two AC's are ducted together and were designed to work in tandem.

After using the AC a few times, I noticed two separate things about the air flow from the AC ceiling vents. First was that the bedroom AC ceiling vents didn't have nearly the air flow that the LR ones did when running the corresponding AC units. So I pulled the ceiling panel from the bedroom AC and immediately saw where the holes were cut (or should I say "punched") thru the insulation board on each side to allow cooled air into the helix duct work. However, the holes were woefully small compared to the cutout in the AC unit itself and the ductwork, about the size of baseball. So I trimmed away the excess so that the hole matched the rectangular hole on the AC unit and duct taped the edges between the AC unit and the helix ductwork to seal it up. The airflow out of the two BR ceiling vents was now equal to or even a little better than the LR ducts were.

The second issue I noticed from day one, regardless whether one or both of the AC's were running at the time, was that the air flow to the camp side row of ceiling vents always had MUCH more airflow than the driver side vents did. From my experience with the BR vents, and seeing how things are attached to the duct work, my suspicion is that the same issue of a woefully small hole, or more likely, one hole smaller than the other was "punched" thru the insulation board on the LR AC unit, or that there was another issue that was allowing substantial air loss on that side of the duct work. But because that AC unit is inaccessible thru the LR ceiling due to the whisper quiet setup, I didn't know how to look for that, or any other possible issues and decided to add it to my punch list of issues and leave it until we took it in for warranty work. It worked ok for now, but wasn't where I felt it should be, especially after my experience with the BR AC install.

When we picked up the unit a few weeks ago and were going over the repairs that were completed, they mentioned they "fixed" the AC air flow issue. They mentioned something about air loss thru the BR AC and that the system was just pushing all the cold air OUT thru the BR AC! Not wanting to get into a lengthy discussion or otherwise "lose my cool" (pun intended), I moved on with the rest of the repairs.

So when I got the unit back home, I immediately took a look at what they did. Their "fix" was to just tape off the holes to the helix duct work in the BR AC unit that I had previously trimmed out to INCREASE air flow from that unit into the ceiling vents, and opened up the BR AC "chill" vents in the ceiling panel! So now, the LR AC was the ONLY unit feeding the helix duct work and opened up the "chill" vents on the BR ceiling panel! I removed the "fix" and put it back to the way it should be for now until I figure out if there is anything else I can do to fix it myself.

Since then, I have noticed another possible contributor to my ills when I pulled the LR ceiling vent cowl. I have a lot of cooled air flowing between the ceiling insulation and the ceiling panels which means there is a pretty substantial leak somewhere. I have already found posts that recommend to pull all the ceiling vents and sealing the gap between the ductwork and the ceiling panels to prevent as much air loss as I can around those vents, and plan to do that shortly.

But can anyone suggest anything else I might be able to check out/repair on my own to address additional air leaks?

TIA,

J
Whoops. I meant to reply to you. Please see my reply to bluejay.
Grandpawlee is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Jayco, Inc. or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2002-2016 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.