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04-18-2017, 01:51 PM
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Plugged Grey Tank
I just dealt with a grey tank that would not drain. Not even a dribble. I was afraid that the gate had come off the rod but I could reach in with a hanger and confirm it was opening and closing. So I went to CW and purchased a Valtera flush king that allowed me to force water upstream. It took a few try's but whatever was causing the clog was dislodged and tank is emptying again. I usually stay with full hookups and leave the grey gate open. Now I am thinking this may cause some solids and soap scum etc to congeal. Anyone have experience with this issue?
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04-18-2017, 02:04 PM
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could have been a rodents nest. Do you have a clear elbow at the valve so you can see what comes out?
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04-18-2017, 02:48 PM
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Another possibility I have heard more than once is a piece of plastic accidentally dropped into the tank during assembly. They frequently use a hole saw to make a spot for a drain or vent, then cement things together. If the cutout falls into the tank it can cause intermittent blockage as you described.
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04-18-2017, 05:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbbyr
Another possibility I have heard more than once is a piece of plastic accidentally dropped into the tank during assembly. They frequently use a hole saw to make a spot for a drain or vent, then cement things together. If the cutout falls into the tank it can cause intermittent blockage as you described.
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This happened to me.
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04-18-2017, 05:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbbyr
Another possibility I have heard more than once is a piece of plastic accidentally dropped into the tank during assembly. They frequently use a hole saw to make a spot for a drain or vent, then cement things together. If the cutout falls into the tank it can cause intermittent blockage as you described.
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I agree with Robbbyr, heard of this a few times.
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04-18-2017, 06:10 PM
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To definitively find out, if you have access to a fiber optic flexible stalk camera you can run it inside the drain outlet to see. I have a Milwaukee I got at Home Depot. I have disposible clear plastic sleeves to keep the camera clean. Perhaps a tool-crazy friend has one!
You may have to remove the gray tank valve to get the camera into the tank depending on how long the drain pipes are. Now if you find a plug, getting it out might be a whole other discussion!
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04-18-2017, 06:28 PM
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04-19-2017, 07:00 AM
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When at a Full hookup site NEVER leave your black or gray valves open..
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04-19-2017, 07:29 AM
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Never leave sewer or grey water valves open when hooked up. Your black water tank will never really clear itself (no liquids to really flush) and your grey water is used to flush the sewer line AFTER you drain you black tank. Makes it easier to clean out after you drain both tanks. When the need arises or you are breaking camp, then drain your tanks--black first, close, then grey water. Never have them both open at the same time.
Plus you leave yourself open to being the campground sewer gas source. Fumes can enter your system and vent into your unit and/or out the vent stack.
The only plus to leaving them open full time is to get sewer gas fumes so no one wants to camp near you.
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04-19-2017, 07:46 AM
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If at a site for a week you can leave your grey open but close it a couple days before breaking camp as others mentioned to build up water to flush out the black after dumping. I agree you don't want to leave your black open even if you have a black tank flush. You really want to dump it when it is full not as it is being filled. The grey is less important other than building up some volume when when breaking camp. If you don't go through much water then that may mean it takes a week to build up the grey tank. For weekend trips we just leave everything closed. Though we also probably are not at a full hook up site with sewer either and just use the dump station on the way out.
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04-19-2017, 07:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GScott
I just dealt with a grey tank that would not drain. Not even a dribble. I was afraid that the gate had come off the rod but I could reach in with a hanger and confirm it was opening and closing. So I went to CW and purchased a Valtera flush king that allowed me to force water upstream. It took a few try's but whatever was causing the clog was dislodged and tank is emptying again. I usually stay with full hookups and leave the grey gate open. Now I am thinking this may cause some solids and soap scum etc to congeal. Anyone have experience with this issue?
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Like others have said, you got bad advice from someone. Keep your valves closed until ready to dump..... On a seasonal or longer term sight, keep it closed and once a week or what ever based on your usage habits, dump the black tank first and then flush it all with the grey tank. Absolutely no reason to keep the grey open and plan on closing it a day or 2 before packing up.
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04-19-2017, 08:01 AM
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04-19-2017, 08:04 AM
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Keep the tanks closed. Gasses, and if it rains, and the campgrounds septic is full, and prone to large puddles, you could get some over flow backing into the slinky. Ive seen it happen
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