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05-05-2016, 06:45 AM
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TPMS Question
I have a TPMS that I am looking to install on my X213. It monitors both tire pressure and temp. I need to program it for its alarm feature. I'm not sure what high temp setting should I have the alarm set for? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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05-05-2016, 06:54 AM
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The sidewall of the tire will have a rating, there should be a database (not sure if it's w/ NHTSA or just the tire manufacturer) referring the numbers to a temperature.
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05-05-2016, 07:07 AM
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Depending on ambient temperature and road heat you could likely see temps above 100 degrees in the summer. If it's +90 out and full sun, afternoon the road could be 100+ degrees resulting in a temp above 100. Sunny side vs shade side will also result in warmer temps as will load.
Pressure goes up to about 93-95 on each of my 80 PSI cold tire.
Running vs traffic could set them off if your in extreme heat FYI.
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05-05-2016, 12:24 PM
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Great question. I was wondering the same thing.
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05-05-2016, 01:10 PM
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I've had two different TPMSs over about 5 years. Personally I don't think the temperature reading has much value. If the TPMS was internal, yes, it would have value but a sensor stuck on the end of an extender or even on the valve stem itself isn't going to measure internal tire temperature. It's reading is going to be closer to outside air temperature than internal air temperature. I set mine plenty high to guarantee they never go off. That would be around 120 degrees.
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05-05-2016, 01:49 PM
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Thanks everyone. Hoppers4 I was thinking along the same lines, hence my post. My initial instinct wss to disable the temp alarm but with the TPMS I have its not an option. As it stands now I am waiting for the manufacturer to reply to an email because one sensor doesn't register and the monitor won't cycle from temp back to psi. This thing was given to me but my neighbor so I don't know that much about it.
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05-05-2016, 05:23 PM
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My TST system states that the temperature default is 157 deg.f which is the Michelin standard. It says tires typically fail at temps between 180 and 200 deg. f.
I have never had one over 120 deg in 4 years of use.
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05-05-2016, 05:50 PM
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I am more worried about pressure (lack of it really) than I am of temperature. Almost all tire issues are caused by a LOW tire pressure.
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05-05-2016, 06:47 PM
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The pressure gets real low fast when they blow.
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05-06-2016, 05:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by norty1
My TST system states that the temperature default is 157 deg.f which is the Michelin standard. It says tires typically fail at temps between 180 and 200 deg. f.
I have never had one over 120 deg in 4 years of use.
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05-06-2016, 03:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edatlanta
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05-06-2016, 05:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by norty1
The pressure gets real low fast when they blow.
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Yes, the pressure goes very quickly when they blow. Isn't it also possible they blow because you get a slow leak, as the air pressure goes out, the tire gets flatter AND HOTTER, eventually they separate or blow. IMHO, most of the time tires get a small leak and due to losing air pressure, they start running hotter and either blow or separate.
Either way, I have a Tire Minder TPMS and feel a lot better as I can see if there is a slow leak.
Under inflation is the easiest way to kill a tire!
Read this link:
Why Blowouts Happen—and How to Avoid Them
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05-06-2016, 08:24 PM
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How cool is this? I heard back from the manufacturer this morning. Even though I am not the original buyer but I do have all of the paperwork, they are sending me all necessary replacement parts for the TPMS. All I was hoping for was some advice or suggested place to purchase parts. Its not an expensive unit (Carchet TPMS) and gets slightly above average reviews but at least the manufacturer is helpful.
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05-06-2016, 09:03 PM
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That is great when a manufacturer is helpful like that.
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05-07-2016, 11:05 AM
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Are there any versions of TPMS which installed in the tire? I have that kind of sensors in my car and I thought that all TPMS go inside.
If the sensors are installed outside, is it DIY job to install or you need to have a professional to do this? I asked my dealer if they would install TPMS and they said no.
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Originally Posted by hoppers4
I've had two different TPMSs over about 5 years. Personally I don't think the temperature reading has much value. If the TPMS was internal, yes, it would have value but a sensor stuck on the end of an extender or even on the valve stem itself isn't going to measure internal tire temperature. It's reading is going to be closer to outside air temperature than internal air temperature. I set mine plenty high to guarantee they never go off. That would be around 120 degrees.
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05-07-2016, 11:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bono
Are there any versions of TPMS which installed in the tire? I have that kind of sensors in my car and I thought that all TPMS go inside.
If the sensors are installed outside, is it DIY job to install or you need to have a professional to do this? I asked my dealer if they would install TPMS and they said no.
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TST makes a version of their 507 with internal sensors. We just got it for our camper and are so far are happy with it. Much better than the external on the valve stem sensors in my opinion.
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05-07-2016, 12:00 PM
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TST 507s are also available as an external sensor which is what I have. It's a fairly easy install by the user. Unless you have the equipment to dismount and mount tires, the internal ones would have to be installed by a tire dealer.
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05-07-2016, 12:02 PM
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Thanks, Guys. So is the difference between Non Flow Through and Flow Through systems? First one is external and second internal?
EDIT: I see that Don has TST 507 Flowthru and is saying that this is external. So Non Flow Through is internal?
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05-07-2016, 12:50 PM
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The 510 is non-flow-thru. Here's a link to their TPMS.
Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems -*Truck System Technologies
Flow through simply means you don't have to take the sensor off to air up the tire. Non-flow-thru requires removal of the sensor from the valve stem to air up the tire.
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05-07-2016, 02:57 PM
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The 510 and 507 have outside screw on the valve stem sensors. Yhe 507 has the option of flow sthr sensors that can be aired uo w/o removal or you can get inside sensors.
All the outside sensors are easy to install and program.
I have the 510 system and it is in use for over 4 years on the same batteries.
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