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04-29-2011, 05:27 PM
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Water heater gas tubing...
Alright, just recieved my new water heater for my TT! Yeehaw! Question is this....went to Lowes to get copper tubing for hooking up the gas line, and the guy helping me said that I had to buy Type "L" copper to run LP gas thru. Went ahead and bought it, even though it was twice as much as the regular tubing. Since I have to solder a coupling to join it to the original line, do I need to buy special solder also...the employee didn't know the answer to that one. Or did he just blow smoke up my hoohaa?
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04-29-2011, 05:33 PM
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Was there a problem with the existing gas line and connection? Sorry, can`t help ya with the solder question, never done it.
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04-29-2011, 06:53 PM
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I don't know about were you are from but were i'm from you can't solder gas piping. You have to use flare fittings to join 2 pipes together.
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04-29-2011, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hammer
I don't know about were you are from but were i'm from you can't solder gas piping. You have to use flare fittings to join 2 pipes together.
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I do marine air conditioning and I silver solder copper tubing all the time. All of my equipment comes with soldered joints. You need to use either 7% or better, 15% Silphos(trade name). I would not trust lead base solder for a gas line joint because of the possibility of cracking from vibration.
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04-29-2011, 08:53 PM
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Residential and commercial codes do not allow soldering gas lines. RV codes may be different but I still wouldn't solder a gas line. If there is any gas in the line, the torch could touch it off.
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04-29-2011, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Landry
I do marine air conditioning and I silver solder copper tubing all the time. All of my equipment comes with soldered joints. You need to use either 7% or better, 15% Silphos(trade name). I would not trust lead base solder for a gas line joint because of the possibility of cracking from vibration.
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Air conditioning lines are another story. Refrigerant doesn't burn or explode, unlike propane.
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04-30-2011, 04:10 AM
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Thanks for all of the help guys! Guess I'll be heading back to Lowes to buy a flaring kit. Gotta love theives...wouldn't be going thru this if they hadn't stolen the heater at the dealer lot! Guess it's hard times for everyone though. Just wish they would've unbolted the line instead of cutting it!!! Would've made life so much easier!!!
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04-30-2011, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by GKopecky1971
Thanks for all of the help guys! Guess I'll be heading back to Lowes to buy a flaring kit. Gotta love theives...wouldn't be going thru this if they hadn't stolen the heater at the dealer lot! Guess it's hard times for everyone though. Just wish they would've unbolted the line instead of cutting it!!! Would've made life so much easier!!!
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Shouldn't the dealer be taking care of this then? On his lot he is responsible.. no matter what his signs say..
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04-30-2011, 05:35 PM
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Shouldn't the dealer be taking care of this then? On his lot he is responsible.. no matter what his signs say..
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I agree seann, but I really got snookered on this deal. First of all they weren't a Jayco Dealer, just a used TT lot. I'm a total newbie at this, so the salesperson convinced me that it was just a storage compartment and that I could by an access door for $35 bucks and install it myself, because all TT's are sold as is. That should've set off alarms then...but we were in a rush and really liked this trailer. Nothing like being foreclosed on to rush things along! Discovered more problems today, but will be a seperate thread!!!
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04-30-2011, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GKopecky1971
I agree seann, but I really got snookered on this deal. First of all they weren't a Jayco Dealer, just a used TT lot. I'm a total newbie at this, so the salesperson convinced me that it was just a storage compartment and that I could by an access door for $35 bucks and install it myself, because all TT's are sold as is. That should've set off alarms then...but we were in a rush and really liked this trailer. Nothing like being foreclosed on to rush things along! Discovered more problems today, but will be a seperate thread!!!
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The salesman told you that the hole where the water heater used to be was a storage compartment and only need a door? Wow, what a sleazy character.
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04-30-2011, 06:50 PM
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Wow. The actions of this dealer sound unlawful to me. Probably not worth it to go after him, and sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do, but geez... "It's just a storage compartment that needs a new door." Now that explanation takes a really gutsy and hopefully fairly rare type of salesman.
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04-30-2011, 07:34 PM
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George,
If you feel that you were truly taken advantage of by this dealer and they are unwilling to make things right, it would be worth the time to contact the BBB for your area on-line, only takes a few minutes. We need to put these kind of places on alert.
Also, since your going to be on the road, the following RV service review web site may come in handy: http://www.rvservicereviews.com/
Bob
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04-30-2011, 07:35 PM
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Yes sir, they saw me coming a mile away! Like I said, I'm a newbie to TT's, and I fell for this hook, line, and sinker! Sales lady didn't even know what she was talking about when she was explaining the UVW versus the GVTW...should've been a clue there. I'm a country boy, so I've hauled horse trailers and such before, and I do know some about hauling. She even tried to tell me that some of her customers hauled trailers bigger than mine (6850 UVW) without a WD hitch or sway bars!!! So everyone beware of Archer RV's in Houston...they are EVIL!!!!
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05-01-2011, 06:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustic Eagle
George,
If you feel that you were truly taken advantage of by this dealer and they are unwilling to make things right, it would be worth the time to contact the BBB for your area on-line, only takes a few minutes. We need to put these kind of places on alert.
Also, since your going to be on the road, the following RV service review web site may come in handy: http://www.rvservicereviews.com/
Bob
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That only works if they are a member of the BBB This type of place would not be..
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05-01-2011, 07:30 AM
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:lightning: Oh Lord, I just Googled them, and most of the reviews are BAD!!! I mean really bad! Out of the 30 reviews I read, only two had anything good to say! I wonder how these low life business' stay around...but then I think, because of suckers like me! Small town boy had to learn another lesson the hard way!
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