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07-07-2016, 12:09 PM
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1997 F-350 Dually: What can I reasonably tow?
When I started looking at these trucks, I thought "I can tow ANYTHING with this." Since then, I've realized that the 99 trucks have a 1600 lb higher GVWR :-( Anyway-here's the deal:
Truck is CrewCab with an 8 ft bed.
-GVWR=10,000
-GAWR=4400 (f)/7400 (r)
CAT scale (3 passengers, full tank, 150-200# in the bed) was 4040/3560 (f/r)
So-There's no way I could come close to my 7400 rear GAWR without drastically exceeding the 10,000 GVWR. (I know, I know..I'm spending a lot of GVWR on the CC and LB).Looks like I've got about 2400 lbs max capacity to stay within GVWR. That being said-Even a 40 ft 5er is within that weight, right?
My wife and I have a bug for a 5er, but I don't want to buy more than my truck can handle.
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07-07-2016, 12:16 PM
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Of course-I have to factor in the weight of the hitch itself. How much do those weigh? Gotta be 250+ I would guess.
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07-07-2016, 02:01 PM
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I can lift my hitch out of the bed. I would say its 85lbs or something like that. I would not hesitate to hook my camper to your truck. My fifth wheel would add about 2,500lbs pin weight to your truck.
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07-07-2016, 02:41 PM
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I had that same truck and pulled a 30' fifth wheel. Tongue weight was around 2600 lbs. I was not exceeding the trucks wt. carrying ability but I had problems with transmission overheating. After replacing/rebuilding the transmission several times we sold it for our current tow.
It was a beast towing. Other than the transmission, my only complaint was it was a rough ride without the rig behind it.
I might add, it was a 7.3 PSD.
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07-07-2016, 02:51 PM
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Thanks. We are looking at about a 35 footer, but the pin wait is more like 2200. That's dry, of course, but I wouldn't think it would change a whole lot with the trailer loaded.
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07-07-2016, 08:55 PM
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Oops....pin WEIGHT. My smartphone wasn't so smart in taking dictation.
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07-07-2016, 09:03 PM
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I had a 1999 F350 dully with the 460 gas and 5 speed manual, mechanics body. . That truck would pull anything even a 14x70 mobile home like it wasn't even there.. I don't think you have anything to be concerned over pulling a fifth wheel except you may need to put an additional helper spring in and an additional tranny cooler. Those trucks are virtually bullet proof.
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07-07-2016, 10:34 PM
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Probably only limited by the transmission as Norty mentioned. Other than that, I wouldn't hesitate hooking onto way more than it's rated for. No doubt a bullet proof truck, especially with a "built" transmission. Man I miss the 7.3.
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07-08-2016, 06:08 AM
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Automatics had a higher tow capacity. Manuals are a lot lower.
Automatic Crew cab 4x4's tow cap is 9600 lbs. w/3.55's - 12,700 lbs. w/4.10's
Manual Crew cab 4x4's tow cap is 7900 lbs. w/3.55's - 10,400 lbs. w/4.10's
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07-08-2016, 06:31 AM
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My 5er was 500 to 600 lbs extra on the tongue when loaded.
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07-08-2016, 09:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TWP723
Automatics had a higher tow capacity. Manuals are a lot lower.
Automatic Crew cab 4x4's tow cap is 9600 lbs. w/3.55's - 12,700 lbs. w/4.10's
Manual Crew cab 4x4's tow cap is 7900 lbs. w/3.55's - 10,400 lbs. w/4.10's
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Wow. I would have thought the opposite. Manuals are so much simpler, I thought they would be stronger. I've got a MT and 4.10 diff.
On a related note. Is monitoring transmission temp a concern with MT, or is that just an AT thing?
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07-12-2016, 05:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tmsbandman
Wow. I would have thought the opposite. Manuals are so much simpler, I thought they would be stronger. I've got a MT and 4.10 diff.
On a related note. Is monitoring transmission temp a concern with MT, or is that just an AT thing?
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I'd say automatic only.
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07-12-2016, 07:38 AM
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Agree, mine was automatic and I had an after market gauge installed.
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07-12-2016, 08:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tmsbandman
When I started looking at these trucks, I thought "I can tow ANYTHING with this." Since then, I've realized that the 99 trucks have a 1600 lb higher GVWR :-( Anyway-here's the deal:
Truck is CrewCab with an 8 ft bed.
-GVWR=10,000
-GAWR=4400 (f)/7400 (r)
CAT scale (3 passengers, full tank, 150-200# in the bed) was 4040/3560 (f/r)
So-There's no way I could come close to my 7400 rear GAWR without drastically exceeding the 10,000 GVWR. (I know, I know..I'm spending a lot of GVWR on the CC and LB).Looks like I've got about 2400 lbs max capacity to stay within GVWR. That being said-Even a 40 ft 5er is within that weight, right?
My wife and I have a bug for a 5er, but I don't want to buy more than my truck can handle.
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I am a little surprised your capacity is that low (2400lbs) with an F350 dually. What does your door sticker say? A 40ft 5er could easily have a pin weight of 3000-3500lbs, well above you 2400lb rating.
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07-12-2016, 10:03 PM
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Ok. We're about to pull the trigger on a 5er that's posted hitch weight is 2060. My truck (97 F350 CrewCab long bed) weighs 7600 with four passengers/both fuel tanks full. GVWR is 10k. You think we're ok?
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07-12-2016, 10:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanNJanice
I am a little surprised your capacity is that low (2400lbs) with an F350 dually. What does your door sticker say? A 40ft 5er could easily have a pin weight of 3000-3500lbs, well above you 2400lb rating.
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Oops. Sorry. Missed you post. Door sticker says 10000. I'm positive. It went up to 11,400 in 99, and 12,600 soon afterward. Had no idea when I bought it we'd be considering a 5er
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07-24-2016, 08:25 AM
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For anyone following-
1) I mis spoke. The 98-03 have an 11,200 GVWR (not 11,400 or 11,600
2) in spite of the RV sales guy insisting my 97 CCLB can tow that 41 footer, I've bought a 2001 instead. That gives us enough weight for the whole fam to be in the truck.
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