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08-10-2014, 12:54 PM
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26BHS on the way, hitch needed
We've just ordered a 26BHS and are trying to decide whether to buy the 800 or 1,000 lb weight distribution hitch. The unloaded vehicle weight on the trailer is 5,470 lbs. Adding the hitch, water, propane, battery, etc may bring this up to about 7,000 lbs. 10% on the hitch would have me buying the 800 lb, but 15% would lead me to buy the 1,000 lb hitch. I'm inclined to buy the 1,000 lb hitch, do you all agree? Thanks so very much!!
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08-10-2014, 03:07 PM
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I would go with the 1,000 lb spring bars on that unit. I use 1200`s on my trailer of similar weight. I Started out with 750`s and they were inadequate.
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08-10-2014, 04:01 PM
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X2 what he said. I pull 7500 lbs with an Equilizer 1000/10,000 lb fully loaded TT and I have been completely satisfied.
Happy RVing.
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08-11-2014, 03:26 AM
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X3! You'll be surprised at how fast your TT will gain weight with all the stuff you're going to be loading into it. Don't kid yourself, it will happen.
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08-11-2014, 07:35 AM
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Ditto on the thousand pounder. I've had three brands including ProPride and find Equalizer the best fit for me. It has sway control and only takes about five minutes to hook up.
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08-11-2014, 08:42 AM
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I agree with the others....., also with the length and loaded weight of the 26Bh I would target a 13% to 15% loaded tongue weight range.., much better TV handling in less then desirable road conditions.
Bob
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08-11-2014, 12:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SailandPaddle
We've just ordered a 26BHS and are trying to decide whether to buy the 800 or 1,000 lb weight distribution hitch. The unloaded vehicle weight on the trailer is 5,470 lbs. Adding the hitch, water, propane, battery, etc may bring this up to about 7,000 lbs. 10% on the hitch would have me buying the 800 lb, but 15% would lead me to buy the 1,000 lb hitch. I'm inclined to buy the 1,000 lb hitch, do you all agree? Thanks so very much!!
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I don't understand the mindset of the answers to these questions.
When purchasing a new TT for an existing TV (or vice versa), or purchasing a distribution hitch - why does everyone base their decisions on UNLOADED vehicle weights?
your TV tow rating should be greater than the TT MAX GROSS weight.
your TV cargo rating should be greater than 12% of TT MAX GROSS weight.
your distribution hitch spring rating should also be greater than 12% of TT MAX GROSS weight.
for your new 26BHS, the MAX GROSS TT weight is 7750#, therefore your spring bar rating should be at least 930#.
Also, your TV ratings (usually) only assume a 150# driver and one 150# passenger. Make sure you subtract the weights of the kids, dogs, the canoe on top, and the firewood in back from both the TV tow and cargo rating.
Tim.
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08-11-2014, 01:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tjpolsin
I don't understand the mindset of the answers to these questions.
When purchasing a new TT for an existing TV (or vice versa), or purchasing a distribution hitch - why does everyone base their decisions on UNLOADED vehicle weights? Tim.
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Apoligies if I misundersand you, but it reads to me we all thought the camper would gain weight, so went with the higher rated bars. Or am I
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08-11-2014, 01:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cekkk
Apoligies if I misundersand you, but it reads to me we all thought the camper would gain weight, so went with the higher rated bars. Or am I
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What I have concerns with is making weight-based decisions (i.e. tow ratings, spring ratings) off of a trailer's unloaded weight and your guess of how much you are probably going to add over the years.
My position is that these decisions should be based on the trailer's max-gross weight, even if you don't think you will ever add that much cargo.
I also agree that the higher rated bars are warranted, and I base my conclusion on TT max gross weight calculations.
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08-11-2014, 02:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tjpolsin
What I have concerns with is making weight-based decisions (i.e. tow ratings, spring ratings) off of a trailer's unloaded weight and your guess of how much you are probably going to add over the years.
My position is that these decisions should be based on the trailer's max-gross weight, even if you don't think you will ever add that much cargo.
I also agree that the higher rated bars are warranted, and I base my conclusion on TT max gross weight calculations.
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That's clear and I agree using the gross weight is the more conservative measure.
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08-11-2014, 03:52 PM
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In reading the posts it seems the responses, including mine, were recommending 1000 lb bars based on GVWR, not empty weights. It should also be noted that these spring bars have weight ranges, for example 1000 lb bars may have a rated range of 600-1,000 lbs. So even an empty trailer would be accommodated by the 1,000 lb bars.
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08-11-2014, 04:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crabman
In reading the posts it seems the responses, including mine, were recommending 1000 lb bars based on GVWR, not empty weights. It should also be noted that these spring bars have weight ranges, for example 1000 lb bars may have a rated range of 600-1,000 lbs. So even an empty trailer would be accommodated by the 1,000 lb bars.
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I didn't get the impression that anyone was recommending 1000# bars based on GVWR. I got the impression that recommendations were based on unloaded weight plus stuff that might be added later. these to me are different scenarios.
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08-11-2014, 06:55 PM
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I think we're now engaging in a distinction without (much of) a difference!
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08-11-2014, 08:33 PM
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We have a 264 which is almost identical. We have a blue ox WDH with 1000lbs bars and it works great.
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08-11-2014, 08:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cekkk
I think we're now engaging in a distinction without (much of) a difference!
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Well said.
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08-12-2014, 04:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tjpolsin
snip..... When purchasing a new TT for an existing TV (or vice versa), or purchasing a distribution hitch - why does everyone base their decisions on UNLOADED vehicle weights?....snip
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IMO the "everyone" are the RV dealers, they tend to refer to UVW's when selling a HTT, TT, etc., not in terms of realistic (ready-to-camp) loaded weights, and/or GVWR's. In most cases they send a TT off their lot with WDH's sized without any consideration for potential loaded weights (let alone GVWR's).
On the positive side, I believe that JOF members in general focus on loaded weights based on their respective loading habits, and/or GVWR's.
Bob
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