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Old 07-28-2015, 07:18 AM   #1
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Attention Dodge owners!

Massive recall just announced - may affect you!

Fiat Chrysler faces record fine over recalls, must offer to buy back 500,000 Ram pickup trucks | Fox News
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Old 07-28-2015, 07:27 AM   #2
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The silver lining is that it will give many Ram owners the opportunity to upgrade to F150's.
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How do you comment on this without getting political


That's one problem with buying a Fiat that was made in Mexico. Don't worry though I'm sure the tax payers are willing to bail them out again.
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I doubt the buy back will adversely affect Chrysler. They are only going to have to buy them back at "depreciated value". So if that is true, how many do you really think will give up their relatively new truck for a loss? Owners can still have the option to have their truck repaired.
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Does the truck recall involve the "death wobble" I've seen mentioned in other forums?
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Yes - the buy back is for RAM trucks that have "defective steering parts that can cause drivers to lose control" - aka the "death wobble". It includes several models from 2008-2012. Also, some Aspen/Durango's from 2009 and Dakota trucks from 2009-2011.
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Yes - the buy back is for RAM trucks that have "defective steering parts that can cause drivers to lose control" - aka the "death wobble". It includes several models from 2008-2012. Also, some Aspen/Durango's from 2009 and Dakota trucks from 2009-2011.
"death wobble" still exists? I thought chrysler did away with solid axle front ends? I really havent paid attention to them since Ive left the dealership.

It was a big problem in the late 90s early 00s, but easily fixed with a new trac bar. Interesting...
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According to this site it wasn't truly fixed until they re-designed the steering system in 2013:

Dodge Ram Death Wobble

Of course - it didn't do much good to fix that problem and then allow for it to be compromised electronically like this:

Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway—With Me in It | WIRED

While the article focuses on Jeep there are numerous models including RAM trucks with the Uconnect feature that are affected. So I guess I'm adding my RAM to the list of things I get to patch....
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Old 07-29-2015, 06:29 PM   #9
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The silver lining is that it will give many Ram owners the opportunity to upgrade to F150's.
Why would we want to downgrade to a Ford.
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Why would we want to downgrade to a Ford.
Me neither.

Those recall news stories misconstrued the actual cost and scope since they were based on rumors and not the actual consent decree. Most trucks will be repaired.
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Hope after Fiat buys back a zillion trucks, with the right to resell them after they are fixed, it doesn't dilute the value of those that kept theirs.

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I researched death wobble extensively before buying my truck. Inherent in solid front axle system. Not concerned as I will keep an eye on front suspension parts and replace appropriately for wear.

I think NHTSA is punishing FCA for dragging their feet on other recalls. Their own fault they are in this position.
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Chev had the ignition, Toyota had the gas pedal, Ford had bad tires (or more famously the Pinto). The point is defective parts are not exclusive to a specific brand. Parts contracts are given to the lowest bidder.

The key is in how the manufacturer handles it.
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I have a new Ram 2500 with the Uconnect feature which works really great. Had the Chrysler dealer check and my truck is affected by that recall. However, they don't tell the dealer how to fix it yet. I'm sure it will take a reprogram of the onboard computer. I'm not too worried about it as I live in Podunk, Ga and there is not anyone anywhere near me who is smart enough to take over the computer over the WiFi! I guess the beauty about this is however, that it can be done over the internet, from anywhere with an internet connection!
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I have a new Ram 2500 with the Uconnect feature which works really great. Had the Chrysler dealer check and my truck is affected by that recall. However, they don't tell the dealer how to fix it yet. I'm sure it will take a reprogram of the onboard computer. I'm not too worried about it as I live in Podunk, Ga and there is not anyone anywhere near me who is smart enough to take over the computer over the WiFi! I guess the beauty about this is however, that it can be done over the internet, from anywhere with an internet connection!
The hacker does not need to be near you in order to take over the computer - it's done via the Internet so pretty much from anywhere. You can download the fix and apply it yourself rather than wait for the dealer. I did mine a couple of weeks ago - took about 20 minutes or so. Go to this link and put your VIN number in to verify your truck's status and download the update:

Uconnect® Software Update - Update your Uconnect® System

You'll need an empty 4GB or larger USB stick to unpack the update onto. After that it's pretty much plug the USB into the truck and follow the on-screen instructions. Then there are a couple of key on/off and door open/close sequences at the end to complete it.
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The silver lining is that it will give many Ram owners the opportunity to upgrade to F150's.

I own a '14 F150 and it's a downgrade by a large margin from all three of the Ram trucks I owned previously.
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I own a '14 F150 and it's a downgrade by a large margin from all three of the Ram trucks I owned previously.

So why did you jump brands?
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So why did you jump brands?
I recently jumped from RAM to GMC because of RAM's payloads being a bit on the low side since they switched to coil springs in the rear. I was seriously considering a 2015 F150, but they are waaay more expensive then my Sierra. Also, maybe this is just me, but Ford seems to make very ugly engines .
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