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Old 07-11-2015, 12:27 AM   #21
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I have my integrated brake controller set to 6.5 on my '13 EcoBoost F-150. Seems to be the right setting for my 6500lb trailer.

We just bought a new 2014 F-150 with the 3.5 L EcoBoost. Haven't actually bought our trailer yet, but we are looking in the 5000 - 6000 lb range.

How does your truck do towing?
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Old 07-11-2015, 04:47 AM   #22
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We just bought a new 2014 F-150 with the 3.5 L EcoBoost. Haven't actually bought our trailer yet, but we are looking in the 5000 - 6000 lb range.

How does your truck do towing?
I had a 22FB that I pulled with a 2012 F150 EcoBoost. GVWR was around 6000 lbs and it did a fabulous job. If any of you have camped at Natural Tunnel SP in VA, you know it's a steep incline to get to the campsites. The EcoBoost ate it up like it was nothing.
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Old 07-11-2015, 07:06 AM   #23
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You will just love pulling your trailer with the EcoBoost. Power wise, it's more than enough to say the least. The truck is also very comfortable and roomy for road trips.

You will want to make sure you have a good quality hitch that is set up properly for your truck and trailer. This process alone will make or break your towing experience.

I myself, as well as many other half ton owners that tow, have added a little something extra to the rear suspension to increase stability, and minimize squat. The ride comfort that half tons offer can be undesirable when towing simply because the springs are too soft.

If you feel like you want a bit of extra suspension back there to reduce or eliminate bounce or sag, there are a few options out there for you. Air bags, extra leaf spring, Timbrens, Roadmaster Active Suspension (my choice).

I also run premium fuel when I tow because it allows the engine to make more power by not having to retard timing when under load. Make sure Tow/Haul is engaged and lock out 6th gear if it's shifting back and forth.
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Old 07-12-2015, 07:46 PM   #24
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How do I lockout 6th gear?
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Old 07-12-2015, 07:54 PM   #25
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Update: We bought a 2016 White Hawk 23MRB yesterday. Should be around 5700 loaded.
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Old 07-12-2015, 07:59 PM   #26
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How do I lockout 6th gear?

Use the + and - on the gear shifter. You can lock out all gears (well except first) using that control.
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Mine also will not lock up the wheels. I can't even say that on a "10" setting I notice the 5th dragging the truck when breaking. But we did several long 6% winding downhills (Bighorn Mountains (22 miles down!), Donner Pass, 20 from 101 to 1 in CA, etc.) and all seemed to brake like it should!
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I have had a similar experience and concern, actually posted on it several weeks ago. The ford controller at max gain doesn't lock the trailer in my truck either. My previous towing experience was with an after market controller which just seemed to apply 1 setting whenever the brake light was activated and could definitely lock a trailer at max gain. I did have a very hard brake a few weeks ago on the interstate due to an accident ahead and it did stop quite quick when I needed it to.

The 2016 Jayflight manual says 1000 miles or 50 medium to hard brakes to get them set. I don't even have 500 on it yet, including the trip from Indiana. Hearing others feedback on this post makes me feel better
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Old 07-26-2015, 05:47 AM   #29
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I don't understand why everyone is expecting the trailer brakes to lock up for them. That's the last thing in the world you want to have happen in an emergency stop. The factory controller is smart - it knows how much brake signal to send back based on what you're asking the truck to do. Set it, leave it, and let it do its thing!
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I don't understand why everyone is expecting the trailer brakes to lock up for them. That's the last thing in the world you want to have happen in an emergency stop. The factory controller is smart - it knows how much brake signal to send back based on what you're asking the truck to do. Set it, leave it, and let it do its thing!
My Prodigy manual tells you to set it up by adjusting until lock up and then dial back the gain so they don't lock up.

My Ford manual sort of makes it sound the same with point 6. The wording isn't super clear, perhaps they are just trying to convey "make sure the wheels don't lock up, but you don't have to make then lock then dial back gain".

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5. In a traffic-free environment, tow the trailer on a dry, level surface at a speed of 20-25 mph (30-40 km/h) and squeeze the manual control lever completely..
6. If the trailer wheels lock up, indicated by squealing tires, reduce the gain setting. If the trailer wheels turn freely, increase the gain setting. Repeat Steps 5 and 6 until the gain setting is at a point just below trailer wheel lock-up. If towing a heavier trailer, trailer wheel lock-up may not be attainable even with the maximum gain setting of 10.
I know we weren't able to get ours to lock either (tried to test lock up then were going to dial back gain). We didn't think at 5000# that our trailer would be considered a "heavier trailer" as the manual indicates. Made it hard to figure out what setting we were actually supposed to choose.
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I don't understand why everyone is expecting the trailer brakes to lock up for them. That's the last thing in the world you want to have happen in an emergency stop. The factory controller is smart - it knows how much brake signal to send back based on what you're asking the truck to do. Set it, leave it, and let it do its thing!
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How do I lockout 6th gear?
As someone indicated, you can use the +/- button to lockout gears one by one from 6 all the way down.

For normal towing though, use the Tow/Haul button rather than locking out 6th.

It will change the shifts for towing both up and down. It will only use 6th when it is needed and will not hunt between 5 and 6 on the highway.

It will also downshift on downgrades well. I was manually locking out on downgrades - 6, 5, 4 to run in 3 and then one time I realized that by braking at first, with Tow/Haul on, the track downshifts on a grade without you locking out the gears. Of course you always have the option to lock out and force a downshift.

I am really pleased with the way it works - just got back from a 5000 mile trip to Newfoundland.
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As someone indicated, you can use the +/- button to lockout gears one by one from 6 all the way down.



For normal towing though, use the Tow/Haul button rather than locking out 6th.



It will change the shifts for towing both up and down. It will only use 6th when it is needed and will not hunt between 5 and 6 on the highway.



It will also downshift on downgrades well. I was manually locking out on downgrades - 6, 5, 4 to run in 3 and then one time I realized that by braking at first, with Tow/Haul on, the track downshifts on a grade without you locking out the gears. Of course you always have the option to lock out and force a downshift.



I am really pleased with the way it works - just got back from a 5000 mile trip to Newfoundland.

Yeah, I've been using the tow mode. It works quite well. Regretting the 3.31 rear-end though. Would've gone with the 3.73, but we were trying to get a 2014 to save money, so selection was limited.
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I have a 2015 Ford F-150 Ecoboost with the Ford controller and a 2015 Jayco Whitehawk 24RDB which is 5900lbs loaded and had the same problem when I tried to set the brakes up as the manual says to do, even at 10 it would not lock up. But what I did notice was that the trailer would pull the truck hard when I braked. So I figured it must be a computer thing so I dialed it down to I think 8.5 and it made it a lot more comfortable when I applied the brakes, not as much pull. Then on our last trip going thru a small town some idiot pulled right out in front of me at 45 MPH making me hit the brakes hard and in a panic, needless to say the trailer brakes locked up. So now I have dialed it back even more. We go out again next week and I think I am going to set it to where I can't feel the trailer pull the truck but I don't want the truck brakes to work any harder than it would without the trailer. This seems like to me that both vehicles would be braking equally. I read somewhere else on here where another owner was having the same problem and that is what he ended up doing and it worked out very well.

By the way, I agree with an earlier post about the pulling power of the Ecoboost. We travel thru the Ozarks and you don't even know a trailer is back there. I have the 3.55 gears and this thing pulls as well as my Dad's diesel. I also will get about 12 MPG on two lane roads driving 55 MPH or less. On the interstate it is a different story.
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