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Old 09-29-2016, 07:20 PM   #41
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lol. i hear yeah brother.. happy wife happy life.

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Old 09-30-2016, 12:56 AM   #42
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Congrats! Post up some pics I would love to see them I'm happy with my discussion, with the 4.10 gears I think that you made the right choice by going with the 4.10 gears.

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Old 10-03-2016, 01:15 PM   #43
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Every time I bought a gasser sooner or later I always wished I had bought the diesel. So this year I bought a 2007 Dodge 2500 6.7L Cummins. In June we bought a new 27BHS Jayco. There is a fairly steep canyon just outside of Salt Lake called Parleys Canyon. The truck pulled that trailer over the top at 60 mph cruise control was on. 4th gear 2500 rpm. It wasnt having any issues. For that reason alone I'd buy the diesel.

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Old 10-03-2016, 01:16 PM   #44
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I currently own a GMC 2500 Duramax/Allison and would recommend that combination to anyone looking to tow on a regular or semi-regular basis. I also live in the Midwest and tow mostly here in Michigan. My wife are planning to start taking our kids to different parts of the country and will really appreciate the power and fuel economy of the diesel when taking these longer trips with more elevation change. As far as the maintenance of a diesel, it really isn't bad. Your DEF will run around $20 every 5,000-8,000 miles and I change my own oil for around $36 (10 qt./2.5 gallons of oil & filter) around 7,000 miles. Right now in Michigan diesel fuel is on par with regular unleaded so I will take the efficiency, additional torque and longevity.

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Old 10-03-2016, 01:18 PM   #45
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I have a 2011 GMC 2500HD with the Duramax. At the time I got it, I knew I was going to get a new trailer, but I wasn't sure which way I was going to go, TT or 5er. I wanted to ensure I had enough truck no matter what I got for a trailer.

We decided 3 years ago on a 2013 Eagle TT. But we weren't entirely happy with it. So this past spring we traded it on a 2016 Eagle HT 29.5 FBDS.

I had a bed topper/cap on the truck with the Eagle TT. My observed mileage pulling the TT was about 10.5 to 11.5 MPG.

Because I decided to get the 5er, I sold the bed topper/cap and got a 4 panel tonneau folding cover. Pulling the 5er, I was surprised to see my mileage went up to around 12 to 13 MPG. Loaded, the trailer is about 9500 to 10000 lbs and once I get up to speed, I can't hardly tell it's back there.

I have zero regrets with the truck. The only regret was I didn't get the 5er in the same floor plan in 2013 when it was being made in the Eagle model line.
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MWILDER: IMO if you stick with the Whitehawk 24 MBH, a gas engine will do nicely especially with a bigger engine but even with a lower axle ratio like 3.73. But if you think you might be moving up in the future, maybe a diesel might be the way to go. Remember camping is like liquor or drugs. Tents lead to popup's. Popup's lead to travel trailers. Travel trailers lead to fifth wheels. Fifth wheels lead to class A motor homes.
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Old 10-03-2016, 01:25 PM   #46
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We bought a 2016 2500HD with Duramax and Allison Transmission. It has a 3.73 ratio axle. I could not be more pleased with any other vehicle. We get 11-12 MPG towing a 28DSBH that weighs around 7000# loaded. We get 22-24 MPG on the road not towing.
We used to tow with a Yukon XL with a gas engine. I only used non-ethynol gas and sometimes it was hard to find. You can get Diesel fuel most anywhere. As far as the DEF fluid goes, It uses about 1 gallon per 1000 miles.
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Old 10-03-2016, 01:33 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by bansai View Post
You could tow that with a 1500/F150 so you'll be fine with the 2500 in pretty much any configuration you can get.
A 'second' to Bansai's input; my new F150 has 1771# payload and rated at 10,700 towing capacity, and walks right down the road with our 28RBKS White Hawk (also with added Firestone Ride Rite air bags). ANY 3/4T truck, gas or diesel, will pull the trailer you have with ease.

I considered buying a 3/4T, but this truck is my every day driver. If I'd have bought a Super Duty just to pull the trailer on a half-dozen local weekend trips, and a couple 4-or-5 day vacations each year, I'd have sort of felt like I built an entire church just for Easter Sunday...
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Old 10-03-2016, 01:41 PM   #48
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I sold my dodge diesel as I didn't need it to tow my White Hawk I purchased a Ford F-150 Ecoboost with heavy tow package and I tow my 30' whitehawk no problems and have the benefits of just having a lightweight f150 v6 to drive ... I pull it over mountaineous routes without any issues and often pass other truck struggling to pull less trailers
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Old 10-03-2016, 01:50 PM   #49
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One more thought that has nothing to do with towing capacity.

Fueling on the road may be easer with a diesel than with a gasser. Sometimes the gas pumps are in the front with little room to maneuver your rig. Diesel pumps that accommodate 18 wheelers give you a lot more room.
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Old 10-03-2016, 02:10 PM   #50
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Having owned and towed with 1500 and 2500 gassers, and now driving my 10-year old 2500HD Duramax LBZ:
1) 1500 gassers - most have payload ratings that will hardly let you fill four seats and a full gas tank without already being overweight. Much less adding 500-1000lbs of tongue weight and another 500lbs of gear (contrary to marketing gooblygook, its the payload rating that limits what RV you can/should actually tow, NOT the so-called tow rating). I started out this way, scary experience.
2) 2500. Ahh. Much better...towing can actually be FUN!
3) 2500HD diesel. And now we have real torque. More FUN! I saw some posts warning of increased maintenance costs. I do all my own, the extra $30-40 per oil change is nothing in the long run. Especially consiidering 8mpg gasser towing vs 13mpg diesel towing. And the diesel is way more fun to drive both empty and loaded.

Tow just a few times a year, imo 2500 gasser. Tow a lot, or just plain like torque towing or not, imo diesel.

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