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Old 09-10-2014, 01:31 PM   #1
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Help! Need Real World Towing Experiences with Tundra 5.7 4x4

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Family (wife & 1 infant) are looking to purchase travel trailer. We have it narrowed down two separate trailers. Note:, weight distribution and anti sways will be purchased.
  1. Jayco Jay Flight 19RD
  2. Jayco Jay Flight 24FBSC
I have a 2012 Toyota Tundra 5.7ltr Double Cab 4x4 that has a towing capacity of +-10,000lbs. Both trailers are within the trucks towing capacity, but I'm not 100% convinced it can be correlated back to real world driving experiences. The Tundra is a beast, but I don't want to push the Truck too hard, and if camping in remote areas, I want to ensure it has plenty of power to get through tough situations (sand, washouts etc). I live at 5,500 feet and most of my TTing will be done in the mountains of New Mexico & Colorado. My intentions is to have the unit fully self contained for boondocking.

My questions to those that have experience are:
  • Can the Tundra handle the towing in mountains?
  • Recommend a slide out or non for type of TTing?
  • With a slide out, is it more difficult to find accommodating campgrounds (not RV Parks, but campgrounds)?
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Old 09-10-2014, 02:08 PM   #2
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Just keep in mind that you will lose ~3% of your available power for each 1000' of elevation.
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Old 09-10-2014, 02:24 PM   #3
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1) Your Tundra will handle either of those trailers like a boss. The 5.7 has good engine braking ability as well.

2) We went from a 23' Coachmen 230BH with no slide, to a 28DSBH with a slide. Having a slideout does wonders for in-coach comfort, especially when everyone is inside.

3) Issues with campgrounds that's we've been to have never been about width, but length and being able to physicaly maneuver around tight roads that were never made for longer trailers.

I recently saw some Springdales that had mud tires on them stock with the "offroad package'. These are slightly taller and look like it may handle rough roads and approach/departure angles better. One even had a front porch for hauling quads or bikes.

Just my .02 cents.
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Old 09-10-2014, 02:34 PM   #4
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I pull a 11,000 lb 2014 Jayco Eagle 338 rlts with my Tundra 5.7 with no problems at all. I really can't even tell the difference between the Tundra (which has 3/4 ton running gear) and a 2500HD my friend drives tow wise. I did add the Roadmaster Suspension which made a huge difference. Put the tranny in Tow Mode to handle the mountains and use stab braking technique like big trucks. A rule of thumb is that you can go downhill at about the same speed that you can easily pull the hill uphill.
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If you want a slide, get one. Ours is the couch and only moves out about a foot, but man, what a difference it makes in floor space! I agree with Peter, length is more of a problem than a slide out. Even with our 21' trailer I've had some short driveways where I had to park the truck at an angle.
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If you want a slide, get one. Ours is the couch and only moves out about a foot, but man, what a difference it makes in floor space! I agree with Peter, length is more of a problem than a slide out. Even with our 21' trailer I've had some short driveways where I had to park the truck at an angle.
x2 on this. It may only move out a foot but the room it creates makes it very comfy inside.
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We have started hunting for a new TV. We love Toyotas but I am concerned with the Tundras 1500# payload. With people, fluids, hitch and tongue weight, you don't have much left for other stuff.
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my thought is to go with the slide also go with larger trailer you might be considering that the smaller trailer will be fine but i think in the end your family will enjoy a larger trailer just my two
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My first one had no slide, my current one has the small sofa slide that extends 16", my next one will have a large slide, or two....
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I agree I would definitely look at the space inside a tt with a slide compared to one without .. we had a 2003 with one superslide and now we have a 338 rets with three slides and what a difference in room inside.
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Old 09-10-2014, 08:07 PM   #11
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I have a 2014 Eagle 338 rlts. What is the difference between the 338 rlts and the 338 rets?
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I have a 2014 Eagle 338 rlts. What is the difference between the 338 rlts and the 338 rets?
I believe "rl" in Jaycospeak is rear living (room), and "re" is rear entertainment. Check Jayco site for floor plan. If I'm wrong, their owners will let us know.
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I have a 2013 tundra crew max. I tow an Eagle 284bhs which is 6600 lbs dry. It pulls that camper with no problems. I've done hills no problem I've even pull the camper on the beach. The campers you are looking at will be much lighter and you will have no problems towing. As far as the slide it is worth it to get the extra room!!!!!
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I installed the Roadmaster suspension on my 5.7 Tundra. Now it roughly has the same payload as a 3/4 ton. It made a huge difference! Well worth the money and once installed you never have to touch it again. It actually rides better than before when towing or not. I think I spent about $350 on it from Amazon.
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We have started hunting for a new TV. We love Toyotas but I am concerned with the Tundras 1500# payload. With people, fluids, hitch and tongue weight, you don't have much left for other stuff.
How much stuff and people are you putting in the truck? 1500# is on the high side for payload 1/2 tons. Most are in the 1100/1200 range. Mine is a little over 1600# (which I was tickled pick to see when looking at this truck). Even with bikes, myself, wife, tongue and a few other things I'm not much over 1200#.

What fluids are you talking about?
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:27 PM   #16
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In the 338 rlts and the 338 rets both the rl and the re appear to be the same regarding the the rear area hence the question. They seem to be the same otherwise also. The difference appears to be what is standard equipment and what is optional. With all options they appear to be both exactly the same. Again, hence the question. What is the difference? Is it just the standard equipment? If so, why two models that are the same?
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I pulled up floor plans on both the RLTS and the RETS, and I can't see any difference. I wonder if RLTS is the model designation in 2014, and they changed the floor plan designation to RETS for the 2015 model year? That's all I got...?

+1 on Roadmaster Active Suspension, it's the best mod I've made and the ride is MUCH better towing or not. But that being said, I'm currently towing at my maximums, and I wouldn't recommend it. It just takes a bit more vigilance and energy, and I look forward to towing with a 3/4 ton and not worrying about it even a little bit.

Even still, there are some people out there pulling 5ers with Tundras, in addition to wwsmith111, and doing just fine with them.
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The rlts and rets were both models in 2014. I looked at both on the Jayco website and all I can see different is that the rlts comes with more standard equipment. The Jayco website also says that the rlts is available only from dealer stock whatever that means. I bought mine from the dealer who had just gotten his first one in - a 338 rlts. It had every option except one.

ditto on the pulling 5ers with a Tundra. And you don't see them broke down or upside down either. I was afraid of pulling the 338 rlts which is a 39' tag-a-long and weights 11,000 lbs, but no worries. I've been up in the mountains with it several times and I was surprised at how well it did. I'm not saying it is as good as an F250 diesel etc., but it got the job done. The Tundra has 3/4 ton running gear, a great tranny and motor, it was just lacking the 3/4 suspension.

My biggest worry is the Towmax tires that came on the TT. I have ordered all new Maxxis E rated tires and soon that worry will be over to. :-)
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I thought "Dealer Stock Only" meant it was no longer in production, ie. last year's model?
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In this case I think it is a "special" version of the 338 rets that can only be ordered by dealers. I think it was a marketing thing. I also seem to remember now that I think about it, that the big difference was that the 338 rlts had the ledgestone fireplace and the 338 rets did not. That was the big difference. It looks to me that they later they got rid of the rlts vs rets and offered the 338 rets with or without the ledgestone fireplace hence eliminating the reason for two models which were for all practical purposes the same. Now there is just a 338 rets and no 338 rlts. In other words, they were making a big deal about the ledgestone fireplace marketing wise. Humm, I think I answered my own question. I'm getting old...
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