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08-18-2016, 06:10 PM
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Jay Flight 2017 SLX 264BHW
We are looking at a 2017 Jay Flight SLX 264BHW for our first travel trailer.
We have a 2010 F150 1/2 ton 5.4 Tow Vehicle and the dealer said our truck would handle the trailer just fine. I'm a little worried from some of the post about our truck towing the TT.
Our TV specs are:
Hitch 1,100 lbs
145 Wheel Base
3.5 Axle Ratio
GVWR 7100
GCWR 15,300
Our TT specs are:
GVWR 6500
Unloaded Vehicle Weight 4615
Dry hitch weight 485
Does anyone have a similar set up and do you have any trouble towing? We are unable to get a different TV so I want to make sure we are not making a mistake before picking it up Saturday.
Thank you in advance.
Jamie
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08-18-2016, 06:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cliffclavin34
We are looking at a 2017 Jay Flight SLX 264BHW for our first travel trailer.
We have a 2010 F150 1/2 ton 5.4 Tow Vehicle and the dealer said our truck would handle the trailer just fine. I'm a little worried from some of the post about our truck towing the TT.
Our TV specs are:
Hitch 1,100 lbs
145 Wheel Base
3.5 Axle Ratio
GVWR 7100
GCWR 15,300
Our TT specs are:
GVWR 6500
Unloaded Vehicle Weight 4615
Dry hitch weight 485
Does anyone have a similar set up and do you have any trouble towing? We are unable to get a different TV so I want to make sure we are not making a mistake before picking it up Saturday.
Thank you in advance.
Jamie
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Hi Jamie,
What is the payload of the truck? Should be on the yellow sticker on the door.
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08-18-2016, 06:19 PM
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1320 lbs is the max weight of occupants and cargo
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08-18-2016, 06:24 PM
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I have a similar setup and are close to my max. It all depends on how many passengers you carry. We are with the two of us and have not much in the truck box. Also the TT still has about 450 lbs. to spare. Best thing is to check all the weights at the Cat scale. The problem is not the TV pull but the payload runs quickly into problems.
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Pro Series 1200 lbs. WDH with Double Sway Bar.
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08-18-2016, 06:29 PM
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It would be 2 adults and 2 (3&4)kids. We typically camp at the state parks foam a couple of nights so we wouldn't need water and would dump everything before we leave. Maybe a cooler and and some firewood but that's it. I never knew the tow weights on trucks could be so misleading.
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08-18-2016, 06:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cliffclavin34
1320 lbs is the max weight of occupants and cargo
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If you figure 12 percent of your worst case scenario loaded weight then you're looking at about 800lb tongue weight. That only leaves about 550lb for passengers, gear and 100lb worth of hitch.
That's tight to me.
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08-18-2016, 06:47 PM
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The weight ratings on your TV are not misleading but more like confusing. A sales person who sells you a RV might be misleading......
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Dexter Axle Lift 4-9/16" - installed with sub-frame.
Pro Series 1200 lbs. WDH with Double Sway Bar.
Champion 3100/2800 watt Inverter/Generator-Onboard Solar Power
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08-18-2016, 06:49 PM
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That is something we are finding out quickly. We will look at something lighter but that can still fit a family of 4 .
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08-19-2016, 05:18 AM
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I think you're good to go with that set up. Your truck factors in a full tank of gas and a 150lb allowance for the driver outside of that 1320lbs. The 264BH isn't a whale of a trailer either; tongue weight will likely be about 700lb. Your truck will pull it great with that 5.4 and 3.55 gears. I personally don't see a problem with this combo but do be mindful of how much gear you bring along in the bed of the truck. A quality WDH is a must.
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08-19-2016, 09:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyBound
Your truck factors in a full tank of gas and a 150lb allowance for the driver outside of that 1320lbs.
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Are you sure?
From FSFord.net:
Quote:
Originally Posted by F-Series Owners Manual
Steps for determining the correct load limit:
1. Locate the statement "The combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed XXX kg or XXX lb." on your vehicle’s placard.
2. Determine the combined weight of the driver and passengers that will be riding in your vehicle.
3. Subtract the combined weight of the driver and passengers from XXX kg or XXX lb.
4. The resulting figure equals the available amount of cargo and luggage load capacity. For example, if the “XXX” amount equals 1,400 lb. and there will be five 150 lb. passengers in your vehicle, the amount of available cargo and luggage load capacity is 650 lb.
(1400-750 (5 x 150) = 650 lb.) 5. Determine the combined weight of luggage and cargo being loaded on the vehicle.
That weight may not safely exceed the available cargo and luggage load capacity calculated in Step 4.
6. If your vehicle will be towing a trailer, load from your trailer will be transferred to your vehicle. Consult this manual to determine how this reduces the available cargo and luggage load capacity of your vehicle.
The following gives you a few examples on how to calculate the available amount of cargo and luggage load capacity: *Suppose your vehicle has a 1400-pound (635-kilogram) cargo and luggage capacity. You decide to go golfing. Is there enough load capacity to carry you, four of your friends and all the golf bags? You and four friends average 220 pounds (99 kilograms) each and the golf bags weigh approximately 30 pounds (13.5 kilograms) each.
The calculation would be: 1400 - (5 x 220) - (5 x 30) = 1400 - 1100 - 150 = 150 pounds. Yes, you have enough load capacity in your vehicle to transport four friends and your golf bags. In metric units, the calculation would be: 635 kilograms - (5 x 99 kilograms) - (5 x 13.5 kilograms) = 635 - 495 - 67.5 = 72.5 kilograms.
*Suppose your vehicle has a 1400-pound (635-kilogram) cargo and luggage capacity. You and one of your friends decide to pick up cement from the local home improvement store to finish that patio you have been planning for the past two years. Measuring the inside of the vehicle with the rear seat folded down, you have room for twelve 100-pound (45-kilogram) bags of cement. Do you have enough load capacity to transport the cement to your home? If you and your friend each weigh 220 pounds (99 kilograms), the calculation would be: 1400 - (2 x 220) - (12 x 100) = 1400 - 440 - 1200 = - 240 pounds. No, you do not have enough cargo capacity to carry that much weight. In metric units, the calculation would
be: 635 kilograms - (2 x 99 kilograms) - (12 x 45 kilograms) = 635 - 198 - 540 = -103 kilograms.
You will need to reduce the load weight by at least 240 pounds (104 kilograms). If you remove three 100-pound (45-kilogram) cement bags, then the load calculation would be:1400 - (2 x 220) - (9 x 100) = 1400 - 440 - 900 = 60 pounds. Now you have the load capacity to transport the cement and your friend home. In metric units, the calculation would be: 635 kilograms - (2 x 99 kilograms) - (9 x 45 kilograms) = 635 - 198 - 405 = 32 kilograms.
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08-20-2016, 06:50 AM
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I looked into it a bit further and it seems that the full tank of fuel and the 150lb driver is accounted for in the GCWR.
"Maximum Loaded Trailer Weight – is the highest possible weight of a
fully loaded trailer the vehicle can tow. It assumes a vehicle with only
mandatory options, no cargo (internal or external), a tongue load of
10–15% (conventional trailer) or king pin weight of 15–25% (fifth wheel
trailer), and driver only (150 lb. [68 kg]). Consult your authorized
dealer (or the RV and Trailer Towing Guide provided by your
authorized dealer) for more detailed information."
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