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Old 03-24-2017, 05:45 PM   #1
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Loaded for Camp and the Scale

We are ready to head out. We weighed the TV loaded w/out TT last weekend. Tomorrow we will hit the scale with the TT loaded for camping. We will get the weight with WDH engaged and then with WDH disengaged to derive our payload number. I think we are going to be over by 200-300lbs, but here's to a better than expected result. I am bringing the impact wrench in case I have to pull a couple of washers on the Equalizer. I think we are going to have too much going to the front axle. I do not know how to redistribute the weight if we are that much over. We really have streamlined our cargo; there's nearly nothing else to shed. It is crazy how little you really can carry with the half ton hitched up. Maybe, it will be better than I think.
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Old 03-24-2017, 05:47 PM   #2
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What's the specs on your camper and truck?


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Old 03-24-2017, 05:54 PM   #3
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snip..... Tomorrow we will hit the scale with the TT loaded for camping....snip
Sounds great, let us know the results when you return from your trip

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If by specs you mean GVWR and Payload for the TV, the GVWR is 6,600 and the max payload is 1,613. We weighed 6,060 loaded without the TT last weekend. That only leaves 540 for the TT. The TT's "supposed dry" hitch weight is 460, but we will see what the actual is with a GP 27 battery, propane tranks, and TT loaded for camp. There is also the WDH to that will be factored into tomorrow's hitch weight/which impacts payload.

I am quite sure we are over our GVWR; I just need to know how much so i can try to refine our set up.
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Sounds great, let us know the results when you return from your trip

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Thanks, Bob - Will do. I am taking the CAT Scale data from the link you gave me.
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:45 AM   #6
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Here are our CAT scale numbers fully loaded:

Weight #1, TV Alone
Steer Axle = 3,360
Drive Axle = 2,700
Gross Weight = 6,060

Weight #2, TV+TT+WDH Engaged
Steer Axle = 3,120
Drive Axle = 3,560
Trailer Axle = 4,800
Gross Weight = 11,480

Weigh #3, TV+TT (without WDH engaged)
Steer Axle = 3,080
Drive Axle = 3,640
Trailer Axle = 4,760
Gross Weight = 11,480

TT GVWR (stated on door sticker) = 6,600
Front = 3, 700
Rear = 3,900

Weigh #2 TV GVWR = 6,680 (+80)

Weigh #3 TV GVW 6,720 - Weigh #1 TV GVW 6,060 = Tongue Weight of 660
*propane tanks were empty

Loaded TT Weight (w/o WDH) = 4,760
Tongue Weight % = 13.8%

Loaded TT Weight (w/WDH) = 4,800
Tongue Weight % = 13.7%
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Here are our CAT scale numbers fully loaded:

Weight #1, TV Alone
Steer Axle = 3,360
Drive Axle = 2,700
Gross Weight = 6,060

Weight #2, TV+TT+WDH Engaged
Steer Axle = 3,120
Drive Axle = 3,560
Trailer Axle = 4,800
Gross Weight = 11,480

Weigh #3, TV+TT (without WDH engaged)
Steer Axle = 3,080
Drive Axle = 3,640
Trailer Axle = 4,760
Gross Weight = 11,480

TT GVWR (stated on door sticker) = 6,600
Front = 3, 700
Rear = 3,900

Weigh #2 TV GVWR = 6,680 (+80)

Weigh #3 TV GVW 6,720 - Weigh #1 TV GVW 6,060 = Tongue Weight of 660
*propane tanks were empty

Loaded TT Weight (w/o WDH) = 4,760
Tongue Weight % = 13.8%

Loaded TT Weight (w/WDH) = 4,800
Tongue Weight % = 13.7%
So your WDH engaged took 40 lbs off TV.?
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So your WDH engaged took 40 lbs off TV.?
Yes, That weight went to the trailer axles.

FeatherFam... Looks like you could add some more weight to the front axle of the TV. You are only putting 40# back with WDH engaged. You are still light on the front axle by 240#.
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FeatherFam,

Great CAT scale data!

I agree, re-adjust the WDH moving some more weight to the TV's front axle so that your "hitched/engaged" front axle weight is closer to the TV's unhitched front axle weight of 3,360lbs. Presently your closer to the "hitched/un-engaged" front axle weight of 3,080lbs.

I assume that under your present set-up the TT tows level, or slightly nose down.

TT gross weight (including tongue weight): (11,480lbs) - (6,060lbs) = 5,450lbs

Tongue weight of 660lbs = 12.1% of TT gross weight.

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FeatherFam,

Great CAT scale data!

I agree, re-adjust the WDH moving some more weight to the TV's front axle so that your "hitched/engaged" front axle weight is closer to the TV's unhitched front axle weight of 3,360lbs. Presently your closer to the "hitched/un-engaged" front axle weight of 3,080lbs.

I assume that under your present set-up the TT tows level, or slightly nose down.

TT gross weight (including tongue weight): (11,480lbs) - (6,060lbs) = 5,450lbs

Tongue weight of 660lbs = 12.1% of TT gross weight.

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Thank You! Yes, I am going to contact Progress Manufacturing (Equalizer) to get this dialed-in. I am tapped on the spacer washers in the hitch pitch/trajectory setting. I will likely need to raise or lower the hitch shank. The trouble is that Progress goes by wheel well measurement numbers and not actual weight distribution/scale numbers in their hitch setting determinations. I have spoken with them several times and found them to be very helpful, but their approach to setting the distribution has always been about the tape measure's readings and not the scale's weights.

Also, I am considering some coil upgrades for RAM 1500s or maybe air bags. Yet, a slightly stiffer suspension response under load would make a difference in the hitch settings, too. I do not intend to do anything to the suspension that is beyond the chassis's design, nor do I intend to exceed the TV's payload and GVWR. The upgrades that I am considering are designed to assist under loads within the TV's ratings and not increase its load capacity - only help within its GVWR. So, I should probably wait until I make my suspension "upgrades" before trying to set the Equalizer.

Additionally, I am considering a Power Stop Brake (tow product) as a braking upgrade, especially since I seem to be at the TV's margins - probably a good idea in any case. I have heard very good things about the brake upgrades. I still have a lot of life on the factory brakes; they have about 60% of their life left. I want to keep them on for another year or so, but the brake upgrade is certainly in my thoughts, as well. The TV has 72K on it, but it is primarily freeway use, and I am very easy on our vehicles; on the road and in the garage, they get babied. I am the guy in the right lane that you burn by (lol).

I welcome and definitely appreciate input from you pros!
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