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Old 09-11-2016, 07:10 AM   #21
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Old 09-11-2016, 09:45 AM   #22
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I think 3.55 is the axle ratio.

You would be best off getting a "Hensley Arrow" hitch or "ProPride" hitch.

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Old 09-11-2016, 12:35 PM   #23
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The wb of the truck vs the trailer length is something to keep in mind. That's why I recommend a good wdh with integrated sway control. As mentioned, properly set up.

3.55 gearing should be more than enough for you. I am not familiar enough with the Fords to know exactly what the ratios may be, even with the tow package.

The HA and PP models are the best, but if you're borderline in regards to the payload of the truck, they are considerably heavier than the Reese or Equal-I-Zer models. With kids that are still growing, and getting heavier, you may end up exceeding the payload.
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Old 09-11-2016, 02:13 PM   #24
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3.55 is a good ratio for towing. 3.73 is the best Ford offers in your F150. The 3.55 will be sufficient to tow the 28BHBE. I pull with 3.31 which is less than ideal and still have no issues.
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Old 09-11-2016, 07:34 PM   #25
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If you go with the 28BHBE, It WILL pull hard with you having the 5.0 L V8 engine and 3.55 gears. Looks like your truck has the payload so you should be close. What is the GCWR? Should be something like 15,000# or so. My 2017 28 BHBE weighs in at 8500# with 80 gallons of fresh water and enough stuff for a full week of camping with just the wife and I. My Tundra weighs in at 7,000# so we are close to the limit of 16,000# GCWR at 15,480#. My truck has a bigger, more powerful 5.7L V8 and 4.30 gears and in 4th gear it pulls 60 - 65 mph no problem. It does bog in 5th gear and there is no way it would pull in 6th. I run a ProPride 3P hitch and the combo is 100% stable in any wind condition short of a Tornado! It is even 100% stable in the air wash behind tractor trailers on the interstates. If you can afford the new F150 and a new 28 BHBE, you can NOT afford to skimp on the hitch.

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Old 09-12-2016, 10:23 AM   #26
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Good day! We just came back from Glacier National Park(5600 miles round trip from Chicago). Not sure how Chevy compares to ford in towing, but I towed our SLX 287BHBS with a 1500. It towed it pretty well. I think the F-150 supposedly tows better than the Chevy 1500- but really don't know. I was pleased with how our truck towed it- other than gas mileage!
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Old 09-12-2016, 01:37 PM   #27
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I have a 2014 Whitehawk 28DSBH towed with a 2012 F150 Super Crew with the tow package 5.0 ltr and 3:73 gears. I have towed coast to coast across Canada with no difficulties. The western mountains with 18% grades certainly were a test but as others have added get yourself a good WDH setup. I have been very happy with my Husky Centerline hitch and on big trips I only pack what I need, no extras so as to keep the weight down. LT tires are a must as well. Good luck with your search.
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Old 09-12-2016, 01:40 PM   #28
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1969lbs is pretty good for payload.

1969-625 (family) -200 (bikes) - 75 (hitch)= 1069lbs left over

I would keep at least 200lbs in reserve for a growing family and anything else added to the truck. So let's assume a maximum tongue weight of 850lbs for the trailer.

Most travel trailers do well with 13-15% tongue weight. So you should look for a trailer with a GVWR of around 7000lbs.
The 8250lbs of the 27BHS would have a tongue weight of around 1072lbs.
The heavier 9250lbs of the 28BHBE would be around 1200lbs. Both of those are using 13% tongue weight.

Even not loading those trailers up to GVWR you will be looking at over 7000lbs travelling weight.

The dry weight of the 28BHBE is 6510. So lets assume that is 6800lbs delivered with batteries and propane and any other options on the trailer. You will probably load an additional 1000lbs of stuff into the trailer. So lets assume 7800lbs loaded up and ready for the road.

7800*0.13=1014lbs of tongue weight.

Payload - family - bikes - hitch - tongue weight = unused payload

So based on those conservative assumptions you would have 55lbs of extra payload available. ~3% safety margin based on your available payload.

How much safety factor would you like while you are towing with your family?

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3.55's are more than adequate for towing. Todays newer vehicles have lower ratios. The average ratio on the Super Duty's is 3.55, although 3.73's and 4.30's are offered in an option package or DSO'd directly from Ford. Unless you're towing a small farm, 4.30's are overkill and gas mileage is horrible. They're mainly used in DSO trucks. The rears offered for the F150's are 3.15, 3.31, 3.55 and 3.73. The first two are for highway use and maybe light towing. The latter two are the tow ratios. Of course, 3.73's are the torque king for the F150.
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Originally Posted by Subaru297 View Post

Payload - family - bikes - hitch - tongue weight = unused payload

So based on those conservative assumptions you would have 55lbs of extra payload available. ~3% safety margin based on your available payload.

How much safety factor would you like while you are towing with your family?

Having a good quality hitch properly adjusted has everything to do with safety whereas whether you have 55 lbs or 255 lbs of available payload has nothing to do with safety margin or the safety of your family.

I have been towing a 28BHBE for my 3rd season with a 2010 F150 with Maxtow which has 1683 lbs of payload for 3 passengers and a 50 pound mutt. The tongue weight on my trailer is 950 loaded for camping and we are able to pack within the limits of our truck. Recognizing that we are within the safe upper limits of the capability of my F150, we went with the Pro pride hitch which eliminates sway and I have never had any with this setup. I also installed airbags and LT tires which I air up for towing and air down for unloaded daily driving.

As you have read, there are many that tow the 28BHBE comfortably with properly equipped 150/1500 "half-tons" with properly adjusted hitches and setups. There are also many opinions from those that didn't have a proper hitch or their TV/TT combos properly setup and had problems with sway or those that have never towed a 28BHBE with a modern F150 who claim it is unsafe to tow anything over 2000 lbs with an F150 because it is a "half-ton truck". You have to take a lot of the well-intentioned but ill-informed advice with a grain of salt as posting 2+2=5 over and over again doesn't make it so.

One thing to keep in mind, the payload of your F150 is calculated based on there being a 150lb driver and a full tank of gas. The 28BHBE also comes with an option for a bike tray or rear bumper receiver which would also give another 200 lbs of payload weight out of the box of your truck.

It you have any questions about pulling the 28BHBE with an F150, feel free to PM me for more info.

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