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12-02-2012, 09:29 AM
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Lost Traction on Interstate
Recently on I-75 I was going up a hill in rain at about 60mph with Jayco 19BH in tow and the transmission shifted down and the truck lost traction which caused the Jayco to start swaying back and forth. Only lasted a couple of seconds but none the less was bad experience. Truck is 2008 GMC Sierra 4X4, 5.3 engine with limited slip rear. Tires are Goodyear Wrangler with about 1/4 inch tread on them. Pretty sure I had transmission in "tow" mode. Anyone else had this happen? Will be replacing tires in spring. Any suggeestions as to better tires?
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12-02-2012, 10:43 AM
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1/4 inch of tread is really not very much, and will limit the tire's ability to channel the rain away from the tread, with possible hydroplaning. That might have contributed to the momentary loss of traction. As for tires, I have had Firestone Transforce on my F350 for several years, with never a problem, especially pulling an 11,000 # 5er. As a case in point, one winter several years ago, there was an ice layer topped by an inch of snow on the roads here. My wife slid her Olds sedan off into a 1-foot ditch on a curve. I nosed up to the ditched car with my truck, attached a chain, and pulled the car out of the ditch with no loss of traction on the ice and snow at all. In addition, the truck was pulling backwards and up a slight hill. I know the weight of the truck helped with traction, but I have a lot of confidence in these tires as well. JMHO
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12-02-2012, 08:46 PM
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Probably happened as well due to the additional torque generated when the truck downshifted. At least that would be my guess.
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12-02-2012, 09:10 PM
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Tires are always in suspect..., but another cause could be improper tongue weight and/or WDH adjustment.
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02-03-2013, 12:01 PM
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Haven't responded to the comments but I appreciate all of them. Just put a set of Firestone Transforce tires on the Sierra. Makes good sense to have a firm sidewall. Will also check my set up on the hitch. Thanks again for the comments.
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02-03-2013, 03:21 PM
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My Ford F-250 owners manual says never use tow/haul with adverse road conditions ie. rain, snow, ice etc. Sudden downshifts can cause loss of control even under marginal conditions. Your owners manual should provide you with the answers.
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02-05-2013, 07:08 PM
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I will check out the owners manual, may not have noticed that . Thanks.
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02-05-2013, 09:24 PM
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Let us know how the new tires work out for ya, especially in inclimate conditions.
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02-06-2013, 07:57 AM
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Might have been the TV fishtailing causing the TT to look like it was swaying but in reality the cause was the TV loosing traction and with the limited slip rear end it fishtailed. Larry ps the new tires should fix that.
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02-06-2013, 09:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustic Eagle
Tires are always in suspect..., but another cause could be improper tongue weight and/or WDH adjustment.
Bob
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That would be my first guess too. The rear of the truck should be heavier even with the WD hitch, if you have removed to much wt. from the rear that could explain the loss of traction in the rain at downshift. One mans opinion.
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02-06-2013, 12:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TCNASHVILLE
My Ford F-250 owners manual says never use tow/haul with adverse road conditions ie. rain, snow, ice etc. Sudden downshifts can cause loss of control even under marginal conditions. Your owners manual should provide you with the answers.
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That's an interesting thought. My owner's manual doesn't say that (at least I haven't caught it), but I can see how that could possibly happen. I will keep that tidbit in mind.
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02-08-2013, 11:22 AM
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Top of page 289 in the Super Duty owners guide. "Warning: Do not use the tow/haul feature when driving in icy or slippery conditions as the increased engine braking can cause the rear wheels to slide and the vehicle to swing around with the possible loss of vehicle control." I believe this would apply to all makes equipped with tow/haul.
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02-08-2013, 12:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TCNASHVILLE
My Ford F-250 owners manual says never use tow/haul with adverse road conditions ie. rain, snow, ice etc. Sudden downshifts can cause loss of control even under marginal conditions. Your owners manual should provide you with the answers.
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Interesting. Never knew or even considered that with our Tow/Haul mode. We don't typical hit ice/snow, but downpoars while traveling are always possible. We have the F-150 so one of us will look into for our half ton.
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02-08-2013, 12:22 PM
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I think the term "slippery" would apply to even a partially hydroplaned tire.
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