Ram 1500 ecodiesel 2015

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[Crabman]

The terms "1 ton, 3/4 ton, and 1/2 ton" are meaningless in today`s truck payload ratings. My "3/4 ton" 2500 has a payload rating on the door sticker of over 3400 lbs, well over a ton and a half.....That rating is a bit on the high side for a 2500 because it is 2WD and a gas engine, but most are well over 2000lbs.

[SouthCo]

Originally Posted by b1mmuo27

Not really sure what you looked at but that truck can pull 8,000lbs. It has a steel frame under it. Not as heavy as a 1 ton but that has a frame which your Camry doesn't & you seem to lacks information. You think they would build a truck to pull 900lbs? Do diligence.

Payload and tow rating are different.... 1/2 tons run out of payload before tow rating.... Why are you so upset ? It's a good truck but facts were being told....

[SouthCo]

Originally Posted by b1mmuo27

Well let's look at another way. 1 ton roughly 2000lbs. 1/2 ton 1000lbs but I would say less because of the way they are built. 800lbs is not bad is it? I am a brother local 105 Hamilton, Ontario

A one ton will handle well over 2000lbs in the box, also known as payload...

[blderman]

Originally Posted by b1mmuo27

Well let's look at another way. 1 ton roughly 2000lbs. 1/2 ton 1000lbs but I would say less because of the way they are built. 800lbs is not bad is it? I am a brother local 105 Hamilton, Ontario

I don't think you are tracking on this subject. My "1/2 ton" F150 can carry 1,770lbs in the bed. Most "3/4 ton" truck can carry over 2,220lbs and most "1 ton" trucks can carry well over 3,000lbs. The "ton" terminology is an old school reference that doesn't mean anything these days. And yes, 800lbs of payload for a truck is terrible.

[UPCamper]

Originally Posted by b1mmuo27

Not really sure what you looked at but that truck can pull 8,000lbs. It has a steel frame under it. Not as heavy as a 1 ton but that has a frame which your Camry doesn't & you seem to lacks information. You think they would build a truck to pull 900lbs? Do diligence.

Payload....Not towing capacity.

[Ela1948]

I have a 2011 Ford that uses DEF. When towing our fiver, it will need 2 1/2 gallon of def every 2700 miles. As someone else mentioned, its much cheaper in a service isle then if you buy it in jugs. Either way, its not an issue. Not familiar with Dodges system but on a Ford it will tell you when you are down to 800 mile from empty. Very easy and cheap item to deal with.

[yaug2]

Indeed I am looking at the crew cab, 4 x 4 ecodiesel, and 800 of payload won't cut it, if that's the case. I am surprised because I thought I looked it up specifically and that it had 1250 or something like that... dissapointing...

[b1mmuo27]

I stand corrected.

[sask934]

That is horrible payload, you can not pull much without going over payload. Sad as it seems that the MPG is great.

[yaug2]

Based on RAM s website, overall payload for a 2015 Ram outdoormans, crew cab, 6ft4 bed and 4x4, with the 3.92 axle, payload is 1150, which includes a 150 lbs driver, so overall payload including driver is 1300 lbs... with my tongue weight on 600 lbs and 500 lbs for all occupants, it only leaves me with 200 lbs for whatever I want to carry in the bed, not much but I usually don't carry that much in camping gear, other than the weber BBQ, a 20 lbs propane tanks and some miscellaneous. May still go for the ecodiesel in the end.

[blderman]

Check the sticker on the actual truck you are looking at. When I was looking at them the actual rated payload was much lower than the website due to added features etc.

[yaug2]

I think I should be fine, my 2009 F-150 supercrew 4x4 apparently only has 1480 lbs of payload, not a whole lot more than the Rams, 1270!

[jfguay2]

Further research allowed me to find out that the new SAE J2807 standard calls for a GVWR that includes a 150 lbs driver and a 150lbs passenger, so that would mean that whatever payload that the Cie advertises, includes everything else.

That Dam Towing Test: New SAE Trailering Standards Explained - Tech Dept. - Car and Driver

Makes a big difference if you already have 300lbs of calculated passenger weight outside of the publicised payload. Does it mean that the 1270 lbs for my specific setup are on top of the included 300lbs? That would be great!

[blderman]

Originally Posted by jfguay2

Further research allowed me to find out that the new SAE J2807 standard calls for a GVWR that includes a 150 lbs driver and a 150lbs passenger, so that would mean that whatever payload that the Cie advertises, includes everything else.

That Dam Towing Test: New SAE Trailering Standards Explained - Tech Dept. - Car and Driver

Makes a big difference if you already have 300lbs of calculated passenger weight outside of the publicised payload. Does it mean that the 1270 lbs for my specific setup are on top of the included 300lbs? That would be great!

But the SAE standard does not account for the weight of extra features. Yes, the 1270 includes 150lb driver and fuel. But it does not include the diesel engine weight, chrome bumpers, upgraded interior cloth, rubber floor mats, upgraded center console etc. All that stuff adds up quickly. Like I said, when I went out and actually looked at the sticker on the the trucks I was shocked how low the rating was. Now, the 2015s may be different, I only looked at the '14s. The F150 Ecoboost I bought has an ACTUAL payload capacity of nearly 1,000lbs more than the equivalent Ecodiesel I was looking at.

[jfguay2]

Originally Posted by blderman

But the SAE standard does not account for the weight of extra features. Yes, the 1270 includes 150lb driver and fuel. But it does not include the diesel engine weight, chrome bumpers, upgraded interior cloth, rubber floor mats, upgraded center console etc. All that stuff adds up quickly. Like I said, when I went out and actually looked at the sticker on the the trucks I was shocked how low the rating was. Now, the 2015s may be different, I only looked at the '14s. The F150 Ecoboost I bought has an ACTUAL payload capacity of nearly 1,000lbs more than the equivalent Ecodiesel I was looking at.

This really is similar to Travels trailers then where the dry weight does not include AC unit, microwave, and other optional accessories that the dealers could add after the fact.

I will make sure to check these stickers for sure. Will report my findings here.

Thanks

[Subaru297]

The 2015 RAM 1500 Towing chart is easily found online.

Crew Cab 4x2 short box is listed as 1540lbs payload
Crew Cab 4x4 short box = 1340lbs

Crew Cab 4x2 long box = 1480lbs
Crew Cab 4x4 long box = 1270lbs

Keep in mind this is for the absolute base model vehicle. blderman sums it up nicely with all the additions.

As an example I will use my Ford F250. If I look up its payload capacity online it would be 3040lbs.
Door sticker reads 2748lbs
Actual payload (from scale) is around 2400lbs after adding all the stuff that typically gets added to trucks.

undercoating
spray in bedliner
floor mats
tow rope
jumper cables
tonneau cover
any dealer added options (running boards that werent' factory installed)
first aid kit
fire extinguisher
tool kit

I think I have everything except the last two items in my truck and I am 600lbs down from the advertised payload capacity and this is on a XLT model. Step up to the Lariat, King Ranch, or Platinum and it gets worse.

Hope that helps.
Cheers

[jfguay2]

Originally Posted by Subaru297

The 2015 RAM 1500 Towing chart is easily found online.

Crew Cab 4x2 short box is listed as 1540lbs payload
Crew Cab 4x4 short box = 1340lbs

Crew Cab 4x2 long box = 1480lbs
Crew Cab 4x4 long box = 1270lbs

Keep in mind this is for the absolute base model vehicle. blderman sums it up nicely with all the additions.

As an example I will use my Ford F250. If I look up its payload capacity online it would be 3040lbs.
Door sticker reads 2748lbs
Actual payload (from scale) is around 2400lbs after adding all the stuff that typically gets added to trucks.

undercoating
spray in bedliner
floor mats
tow rope
jumper cables
tonneau cover
any dealer added options (running boards that werent' factory installed)
first aid kit
fire extinguisher
tool kit

I think I have everything except the last two items in my truck and I am 600lbs down from the advertised payload capacity and this is on a XLT model. Step up to the Lariat, King Ranch, or Platinum and it gets worse.

Hope that helps.
Cheers

I will definitely pay attention to all of these addendums. I took a look at my door sticker (F-150 2009, 4X4, crew, 6.5ft bed) as I thought I had at least 1500 lbs of payload, but to my surprise it said 1298 lbs, not too far away from the 1270lbs of the RAM I am considering. Will make sure to count in all other items but I remain hopeful!

[yaug2]

I just ordered mine finally. Will keep you posted!