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Old 04-15-2016, 10:15 PM   #1
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Reese revolution - looking for some specs or owners manual if it exists

Or is it exactly the same as the sidewinder owners manual? that one I am able to find online....

In approximately two weeks we are heading down to pick up our trailer with the factory installed Reese revolution pinbox. I already have the torque wrench, so I'm interested to know what size sockets I should have in my toolbox before I head down to pick up the trailer. I have read that the bolts like to loosen up so I just want to make sure I'm prepared with the right tools. We'll have a decent treck getting it back to our hometown and one night of camping so want to make sure I have it all with me.
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Old 04-17-2016, 03:34 AM   #2
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I ordered my 5er with the Revolution as well. It came with a manual but I breezed over it. I haven't had to tighten anything up as nothing has loosened but iI did have to remove the bolts that keep the pin box locked rigid like a standard pinbox as that's how they are delivered from the factory. I also had to mount the keyway as its mounted up out of the way as delivered. If your picking it up I'd imagine the dealer would help set that stuff up though.

I'll be out screwing around with it tomorrow. I'll get some bolt sizes for you so you'll have the right wrenches...
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Old 04-18-2016, 08:41 AM   #3
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I ordered my 5er with the Revolution as well. It came with a manual but I breezed over it. I haven't had to tighten anything up as nothing has loosened but iI did have to remove the bolts that keep the pin box locked rigid like a standard pinbox as that's how they are delivered from the factory. I also had to mount the keyway as its mounted up out of the way as delivered. If your picking it up I'd imagine the dealer would help set that stuff up though.

I'll be out screwing around with it tomorrow. I'll get some bolt sizes for you so you'll have the right wrenches...
Ok great thanks!!!....don't go out of your way though. Thanks for the help!!
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Looking up at the bottom of the pinbox left to right.

First very large nut is the nut that holds the turret on. It had a cotter pin in it to prevent loosening. It's probably at least a two inch socket but it shouldn't loosen so I wouldn't worry about it.

Second set of bolt heads from the left are the bolts that held the turret from rotating. As delivered they are bolted further back to lock everything up. There are two holes available to stick the bolts for storage. That's where mine are. You could just throw them in your toolbox too I suppose. They aren't holding anything where they are. They are 1 1/8. There are nuts youll have to grab too. I just used a crescent wrench.

Third set mounted in line are the keyway bolts. Again, as delivered it's bolted in further back so the pinbox can be used like a normal fixed one. They are 15/16.

Last is the pin. I've read a few times of something loosening up but I believe that is up under the turret? Not really sure. As of now, everything is good and tight so I see no reason to worry. If it starts to loosen I'll take it apart then. In your case with a new rig, you should be fine except for these bolts mentioned. I would imagine a decent dealer would help you set it up though. when I brought mine home, I just pulled it like a normal pinbox and then set up the Revolver when I got home and was setting up everything else.
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Old 04-18-2016, 06:27 PM   #5
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Yes, Sidewinder/Revolution are basically the same. Mine's going on year 3, and nothing has loosened yet. If you will be setting your own wedge position, as per manual make sure it is tight against the hitch. BUT, don't be Thor and use your super strength and hammer-from-the-gods on it to get it super tight to the hitch. My dealer did, and it gave me a lot of grief in getting unhitched. I reset it, and all is better. Mind - you never want any play at all in the wedge to hitch connection, but it is possible to jam it too tight.....

Oh, and about those locking bolts - they are used to allow the Revolution to be used for conventional towing. My dealer always pins mine so he can easily move the fifth around his yard. He uses a tractor, so leaving the wedge in place is not an issue. You MUST make sure that those bolts are removed before you drive off! He and I didn't once. He got to replace the whole pin box assembly, the entire Revolution, the entire hitch, and pay to have my truck frame assessed (whew- nothing there bent!).
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Old 04-18-2016, 06:54 PM   #6
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I think I have the problem that OZ97 mentions.
I took my 26.5 out for the first time this weekend. Getting the hitch to release was a little hard but not impossible.
But then I drove it to our storage yard Monday A.M. on my way to work. I worked for over an hour trying to get the handle out to release the kingpin. I moved the truck, I changed angles, I tried it higher/lower/etc. I nuged it forward, I nuged it back. Nothing. I even took a rubber hammer to the handle - it wouldn't BUDGE.

One thing I did notice, as I raised the front jacks, it would almost pick the truck up, then all of a sudden - BANG and the truck would drop an inch leaving a gap between the hitch and Revolution plate. But it still wouldn't open.
So Drop back down and the landing gear is almost off the ground and BANG, the hitch drops onto the plate.

So I called the dealer. They are closed on Monday - but there was an emergency number so I called and left a message. While I was waiting I tried ONE MORE TIME - and it released with a little help from my friendly rubber hammer. I guess it got scared when it heard me call the mechanic.

Anyway - I'm convinced that the wedge is way too tight - I had to rush off to work but this weekend I'll go back over and try moving it back a bit.

My hitch, by the way, is a Reese Titan 16k.

Anyone else had problems with the Revolution not letting go?
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That's interesting. Usually releasing isn't my problem but once I had a problem similar to what you just described. My issue is usually hooking up but as long as it's lined up I don't javelin much trouble.

When I installed the wedge, I just tapped it a bit like described. Now this makes me wonder if I should loosen it a tiny bit to see what happens. Maybe that will be tomorrow's job...
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More research

So, I've been reading on the Reese site and on other forums.

Now I have to go back to the Storage Yard and look at how the mechanic installed the wedge. The universal wedge MUST be installed with the cutout facing the ground for the Titan.

Just to be safe, I also ordered a Titan specific wedge - and I think I'll put that on myself when it arrives.
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BuddyRay - yep, that was exactly the issue I originally had. Same hitch, also. (same fifth, almost same truck, too!). As noted, you want the wedge well seated, but not super tight. Also, make sure to grease it at all the spots noted in the manual, that improves things dramatically.

Tip #2: It is easy to get the Revolution out of line from the fifth, meaning it points a little right or left off the centerline. You must back your truck dead on square to the Revolution, not the fifth, when hooking up. Tailgate clearance is very small when hitched, so coming in at an angle to the fifth, it is easy (REAL easy) to hit the fifth with a corner of the dropped tailgate. Patching the fiberglass is easy, getting a paint match is really hard! I always back until the front lip makes contact with the hitch, get out, close the gate, then finish backing to fully hitch. My first Revolution was so tight on the pivot that I could not move it back to be straight. My second can be moved, although with a bit of muscle. In any event, I now never trust that I am straight enough that I can fully hitch with the gate down.
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Old 04-18-2016, 11:06 PM   #10
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I'd be curious if the Titan wedge would make any real improvement. I stuffed the wedge in the hitch prior to install and it fits real nice with the hitch. I can't see this wedge making any improvement with this hitch but I've been wrong before. Anyone have any experience with both?
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