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Old 08-12-2016, 11:32 AM   #1
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SRW vs DRW

In the 3500 class, how many tow large fifth wheels with the SRWs? I'm weighing options and need to trade. FW is a '16 Pinnacle 38FLSA
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Old 08-12-2016, 11:46 AM   #2
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Following this, I'm on the fence with a 3500 SRW or a DRW with my next upgrade. What is the length a DRW should be considered?
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:56 PM   #3
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We currently tow our FW with a SRW GMC 3500HD short bed w/ Duramax & Allison Trani.
I chose the SRW because the truck is also my daily drive to/from work vehicle.
If I were only using it for towing, I probably would have gone with a DRW.

We have a 40' FW weighing ~14,500 loaded. The truck handles the trailer with no problem at all.

A DRW will give you more stability in windy conditions and also increased GVWR and Rear Axle Weight Rating which can be beneficial for FWs with heavy pin weights.

My loaded pin weight is ~3,400# so I'm pushing the GVWR and RAWR of our truck when fully loaded for a trip but still within its limits. A DWR would have given me a little more cushion.

Something else to consider, I believe DRW only come in Long (8') beds, so no need for a slider hitch.
With our short bed I got the PullRight SuperSlide hitch.
So there's also the consideration if you got with a SRW, do you go with a short bed or long bed. Not sure if there's a difference in GVWR & RAWR between SRW short & long beds.

Hope this helps.
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Old 08-12-2016, 01:06 PM   #4
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The Ram 3500 is available with the 6.4 and 8 ft beds. This truck will also be my daily driver so I am a little reluctant to go with a DRW. As old as my 2500 is I may keep it for a daily driver, still weighing options now.
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Old 08-12-2016, 02:44 PM   #5
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In the 3500 class, how many tow large fifth wheels with the SRWs? I'm weighing options and need to trade. FW is a '16 Pinnacle 38FLSA
Guess it depends on your Pinnacle's loaded pin weight vs. make/model of the truck you're considering. The two big limiting factors on the one ton SRW will be rear axle weight rating and the load rating of your tires. Bed length would be a matter of personal preference, and if you needed/wanted a slider hitch setup for less than an 8' bed.

My truck ('05 Ram 3500 SRW with 8' bed is a technological dinosaur now. But with our first RV (a HitchHiker II/LS 29.5) the truck and trailer loaded for travel weighed in at over 20000 lbs. The truck's combined GVWR is only 23000 lbs. I suspect your Pinnacle weighs a tad more than my HH did.

Then there's the question of what if you trade up to a bigger, more nicely appointed fifth wheel in the future. It happens..... Good luck.
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I see this as an emotional issue.

I know many people in the automotive industry and seeing how things are tested makes me believe that if they publish a capacity, the truck is good for it. Some of us want want more margin, some of us will operate way over capacity. In the end, it is what works best for each of us. My opinion is if your are operating within the trucks capacities, you're good to go.

My current and previous trucks were SRW F-350's, but I am not pulling a big heavy fifth wheel. I have no desire for a dually.
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I have had both. I think the pin weight will be the deciding factor. I pull my rig with a SRW and the loaded pw is about 2800lbs.

If it was over 3300 lbs, I would not be comfortable pulling a rig that heavy on the pin w/o a DRW.
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I have had both. I think the pin weight will be the deciding factor. I pull my rig with a SRW and the loaded pw is about 2800lbs.

If it was over 3300 lbs, I would not be comfortable pulling a rig that heavy on the pin w/o a DRW.
My 3500 SRW Ram has ~4000 cargo capacity which includes a 150 lb. driver (seriously, any 150 lb. drivers on here)? Add the "overage" for the driver, wife, dogs, hitch, firewood and you're at least down to 3500 so I agree with norty1's numbers.
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I own a DRW F350 long bed and I love it. It takes a bit of time to get used to the difference between this and a SRW short bed but once you do it's just another pickup truck.
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Old 08-12-2016, 04:23 PM   #10
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SAE has established standards for the manufacturers to test and establishing towing standards - SAE J2807.

The August edition of Trailer Life has a good article on this.
If I remember correctly, I think the article indicated that all the truck manufacturers are now following this SAE standard to establishing tow ratings.
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