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09-30-2014, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rickfriday
Hello, looking to buy 23 RB soon. Any suggestions for a Tow vehicle. Going to be doing some extensive travel next year. Any comments on the 23B? Thanks,Rick
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I just ordered a new 2015 X23B, and plan on towing it with my 2006 Toyota Sequoia V8. I have talked to many people pulling the X23BB with a Sequoia, and all said it works great, plus it is a great ride.
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10-07-2014, 05:25 PM
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trailer package
Hello there, would like opinion of 1500 Sierra owners. Is it necessary to add $2,000.00 trailer package for towing? [23RB] Thanks
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10-07-2014, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rickfriday
Hello there, would like opinion of 1500 Sierra owners. Is it necessary to add $2,000.00 trailer package for towing? [23RB] Thanks
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Is it that much now for the tow package? I would want it for towing a trailer.
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10-07-2014, 06:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rickfriday
Hello there, would like opinion of 1500 Sierra owners. Is it necessary to add $2,000.00 trailer package for towing? [23RB] Thanks
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it is a convenience only....how much trailer are you towing?
if you like an integrated brake controller it is the way to go.
The rear diff is nice, the cooler can be added quite cheap.
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10-07-2014, 06:33 PM
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That depends on a lot of things. Stats for 23RB are dry weight of 4015, hitch weight of 505 and GVWR of 6250 pounds. I would need to know a little bit more information. 2WD or 4WD? Short box or regular? Crew, double or standard cab. What size engine? A V6 will pull 5900 - 7400. The 5.3L takes you up to 6600 - 11,500 and the 6.2 is 9400 - 12,000 pounds. Do you use a weight distributing hitch? I have a 2015 with the 5.3L V8 (the 6.2 was not available in Max Trailering at the time I ordered). I opted for the Max Trailering Pkg because my White Hawk is a little heavier and I wanted to be in a comfortable state of mind while traveling. You mentioned the $2000 difference. If you wanted the V6, it is a no brainer. NO! The 5.3 and 6.2 is a little more iffy depending on cab configuration, hitch setup or 2WD/4WD. I would assume a loaded weight around 6000 pounds. The 5.3L could be around 6600 depending on cab configuration, etc. which is close. The 6.2 would be alright.
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10-07-2014, 06:36 PM
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According to the GMC website, the Trailering package is standard on many models only $770 on others and includes:
Trailering Package includes:
Trailering hitch platform and 2" receiver
7-wire harness with independent fused trailering circuits mated to a 7-way sealed connector to hook up parking lamps, backup lamps, right and left turn signals, an electric brake lead, battery and a ground
Automatic locking rear differential
Standard on SLT models. Included on SLE models with All-Terrain Package, Texas SLE Value Package and SLE Value Package.
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10-07-2014, 06:40 PM
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this is what I get. I think he meant Max tow
his package includes: - Automatic locking rear differential
- 9.76" rear axle
- 3.73 rear axle ratio
- Integrated trailer brake controller
- Enhanced cooling radiator
- Revised shock tuning for increased control
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10-07-2014, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by nbhybrid
this is what I get. I think he meant Max tow
his package includes: - Automatic locking rear differential
- 9.76" rear axle
- 3.73 rear axle ratio
- Integrated trailer brake controller
- Enhanced cooling radiator
- Revised shock tuning for increased control
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Yeah I see that one now, and it is $2095. Back in 2004 my 1500 had the tow package and 5.3l engine upgrade included for less money then that. Of course there was no such thing as an integrated brake controller back then.
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10-07-2014, 07:01 PM
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Speaking of integrated trailer brake, that thing is awesome! My old Ridgeline had one I bought from the trailer dealer as an aftermarket and I was constantly fiddling with it. It would either lock the tires or give me the willies coming up to a stop. The integrated brake on the GMC is a no brainer. I can set it and look at the dashboard and see exactly how much trailer brakes are working when I am stopping. It is easy to tell when I need to move it up or down.
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10-07-2014, 07:03 PM
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I am confident my prodigy is as good
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10-07-2014, 07:23 PM
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towing
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Originally Posted by nbhybrid
it is a convenience only....how much trailer are you towing?
if you like an integrated brake controller it is the way to go.
The rear diff is nice, the cooler can be added quite cheap.
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23RB, thanks
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10-07-2014, 07:29 PM
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towing package
Yes that was it 2,095.00 for the max towing package for a 5.3 crew with short box. Thanks
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10-07-2014, 07:31 PM
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It depends on what your plans are for the truck. This trailer wouldn't require the extras but if you plan on keeping the truck and perhaps trade trailers you may want it later.
It also would help in resale. you wouldn't recoup the 2000 but it may make your truck more desirable to a buyer
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10-08-2014, 05:53 AM
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I have a different thought than some of the comments on here. I can't speak of the integrated brake controller, because my truck is 10 years old. I thought it was great that all I had to do was plug in my brake controller and it's ready to roll. The enhanced cooling is something, IMHO, that is a must have. Basically, it adds an external transmission cooler and fan. The transmission is probably the weakest part of the drive train, and it's necessary to keep it from overheating. You are going to have to have the 2" hitch and the 7 pin connector. The last time I had a 7 pin connector put in and wired, on a GMC Sonoma, it took them about 2 hours to wire it in.
That's my opinion, take it for what it's worth.
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10-08-2014, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Poppy
I have a different thought than some of the comments on here. I can't speak of the integrated brake controller, because my truck is 10 years old. I thought it was great that all I had to do was plug in my brake controller and it's ready to roll. The enhanced cooling is something, IMHO, that is a must have. Basically, it adds an external transmission cooler and fan. The transmission is probably the weakest part of the drive train, and it's necessary to keep it from overheating. You are going to have to have the 2" hitch and the 7 pin connector. The last time I had a 7 pin connector put in and wired, on a GMC Sonoma, it took them about 2 hours to wire it in.
That's my opinion, take it for what it's worth.
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I do not believe the package includes an "external" cooler for the trans...most do not and I have never seen a dedicated tranny cooler fan.
It is simply a larger capacity cooling through the radiator. An external cooler can be added for 150 dollars.
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10-08-2014, 07:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nbhybrid
I do not believe the package includes an "external" cooler for the trans...most do not and I have never seen a dedicated tranny cooler fan.
It is simply a larger capacity cooling through the radiator. An external cooler can be added for 150 dollars.
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That's exactly what the enhanced cooling is. And an axillary cooler can be done for less than that even, if you are comfortable with DIY.
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10-08-2014, 08:44 AM
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I've got the P3 on my Ridgeline, was quite happy with how it worked stopping the 23B on the way home from the dealer.
Even better once I found the open space required to really dial it in.
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Originally Posted by redenbacher
Speaking of integrated trailer brake, that thing is awesome! My old Ridgeline had one I bought from the trailer dealer as an aftermarket and I was constantly fiddling with it. It would either lock the tires or give me the willies coming up to a stop. The integrated brake on the GMC is a no brainer. I can set it and look at the dashboard and see exactly how much trailer brakes are working when I am stopping. It is easy to tell when I need to move it up or down.
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10-08-2014, 09:54 AM
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Looks like yours and mine would be similar. I have the 5.3L crew 4WD with the short box. I have the max trailering pkg because of my 7500 lb GVWR. Enjoy your rig. You'll love the Sierra!
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10-15-2014, 10:18 PM
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Looking for some assistance. I have a 2012 Ford F 150 3.7L V6 Crew Cab and asking what travel trailer can I pull. Looking at the Jayco TT.
Thansk
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10-16-2014, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Kings28
Looking for some assistance. I have a 2012 Ford F 150 3.7L V6 Crew Cab and asking what travel trailer can I pull. Looking at the Jayco TT.
Thansk
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Welcome to the forum. You will get a better response if you open a new thread in the Towing and Tow Vehicles forum.
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