Towing 32 bhds with 1/2 ton

[NewBlackDak]

No way your max payload is 7500 on an F150. That's 450 territory. Your GVWR may be 7500, but you have to subtract your actual truck weight from that.

[Chomperoni]

Originally Posted by NewBlackDak

No way your max payload is 7500 on an F150. That's 450 territory. Your GVWR may be 7500, but you have to subtract your actual truck weight from that.

Gcwr is 13500 max trailer weight is 7500.

Payload is somewhere around 1500 lbs

I stand corrected.

[gtsum2]

way too much trailer for F150 imo

[t2daniel]

I have a Whitehawk 33BHBS (7168 lbs dry weight, 8500 max GVW). I was towing with a F150 4.6 l with a 7150 max GVWR (1257 lbs payload). I never weighed the setup, but with a max 15% tonge weight would have been over my payload rating. I did tow on 1 trip last year and the rig handled fine on MI roads with minimum grades.

Do you have the tow package, max tow or HD payload package? if you have max tow you should have around 1700 lbs of payload (HD should give about 2200 lbs). I looked at the max tow and HD payload as upgrades to my F150. with the max tow, I would just have enough payload to add my family, with nothing in the bed. That does not include the rhino liner and tonneau cover I added. The only option was the HD payload in an F150. Your trailer is heavier than mine. I would say without the HD payload option I would not even consider an F150...you need a F250 minimum. I bit the bullet and just upgraded. The truck hardly sags with the trailer hooked up.

I'm glad I upgraded. My family's safety is worth the extra investment.

Tim

[wwsmith111]

I tow a 11,000 lbs Jayco Eagle 338 rlts (39') with a 2 wheel drive Toyota Tundra with tow package and Roadmaster suspension. I have a 5.7l 390hp engine with 400 ft/lb of torque. When I bought it (2014 model) the dealer upgraded my equalization hitch bars to 1000lb bars. The 2 wheel drive Tundra with 5.7l engine and tow package can tow 11,000 with 1740lb bed weight. The 338 rlts has 1100 lb of tongue weight. I realize that a 3/4 ton would be way better, but my Tundra tows this trailer with no problems so far. I see Tundras pulling 5th wheels up and down the road all day and haven't seen one upside down yet. You trailer is 8k. Try it out and see if you feel comfortable with it. Take it easy and see how it does. You aren't going to rip down the road at 75 mph with it. Try 55 or 60 to start. Keep an eye on the tire pressures/temps, tranny temp, hub temps etc. One should do this no matter the tow vehicle anyway.

[DieselX]

The 32bhds weighs close to 10k loaded, 8k is empty.

[Rustic Eagle]

Originally Posted by wwsmith111

snip...... The 338 rlts has 1100 lb of tongue weight.....snip

True, but that's a Jayco published dry hitch weight.

For reader clarification it should be noted that under "loaded" 338RLTS conditions the tongue weight in most cases will be heavier. On a 39ft TT many find a loaded tongue weight in the 13% to 15% range (of loaded TT weight) desirable.

Bob

[wwsmith111]

The actual measured tongue weight of my Jayco Eagle 338 rlts fully loaded with my stuff including a washing machine and full fresh water tank is 1140 lbs. Well within the Tundra capacities. You guys live in a paper world not the real world...

[Rustic Eagle]

Please note that I wasn't questioning or challenging your Tundra's capability..., I was careful to note that "in most cases" (not all) the loaded 338RLTS tongue weight will be heavier then Jayco's published dry hitch weight.

Bob

[wwsmith111]

Rustic Eagle, you are right! I suppose that the 200lb scooter on the back of my camper probably takes off some tongue weight as well but adds to the weight on the trailer tandems. The Tundra, most people don't know this, has 3/4 running gear including a 10.5" rear end with a full box frame. It doesn't have 3/4 ton springs however. I installed the Roadmaster suspension on the rear leaf springs which help with this. It still droops a little when I hook up an 11,000 trailer to it that is why I went to 1000 lbs bars on the equalization hitch. There is no argument from me that a true 3/4 ton diesel would be better. p.s. A 3/4 ton will droop as well, just not as much.

[Rustic Eagle]

Agreed, there are no two TV/TT combinations that are alike...., we all have different loading habits, and TV configurations/options also influence the end result.

Bob

[wwsmith111]

I pulled a 16,000lb backhoe behind a f150. I don't think I would blink at a 8k TT. Don't live in a paper world. One can argue that it may be over spec., but I have no doubt that a f150 can pull a 8k TT with no problems.

[Daytripper]

Originally Posted by wwsmith111

I pulled a 16,000lb backhoe behind a f150. I don't think I would blink at a 8k TT. Don't live in a paper world. One can argue that it may be over spec., but I have no doubt that a f150 can pull a 8k TT with no problems.

I agree, go to any campground anywhere and half to people are "overloaded" yet travel thousands of miles a year. Common sense gets you far,

[wwsmith111]

Thats right! Most of us are overloaded per say. The load ratings are very conservative by design. Everybody exceeds the published limits right out of the box, yet very few have problems. I am an electrical engineer. I can tell you that a 20 amp circuit can handle triple that load before a problem may occur. But it is fused at 20 amps none the less for safety. A "D" rated tire may be rated for 2500lbs, but may handle much more than that with no problems provided it is run at rated max pressure. However, a bad tire is a bad tire and may probably blow no matter what.

[Crabman]

The OP has never responded to the thread and the topic has been well covered so I think this one has run its course. Thread closed.