UVW and GVWR?

[lukenick1]

Do either of these number include the tongue weight and if so, is it with full propane tanks and battery?

Trying to make sense of the numbers.

[ALJO]

GVWR is the maximum total of your TT.
UVW is the shipped weight of the factory without propane and battery.

[lukenick1]

Originally Posted by ALJO

GVWR is the maximum total of your TT.
UVW is the shipped weight of the factory without propane and battery.

But the UVW includes the tongue weight, right?

[Kim Gass]

UVW = the weight of the unit as delivered from the factory.
GVWR is the amount of weight the unit should not exceed.

This article might help. You are not alone. I am studying it too..
Understanding RV Weights

[ALJO]

yes it does and is listed in the brochure, but actual TW varies according to the accessories put on in the factory. And will go up when you start loading.

Sample; my empty listed TW was 540 lbs. added 2 batteries and 2- 30 lbs. propane bottles filled; filled 280 lbs. fresh water and front storage loaded. I went to 875 lbs. TW
With the WDH some will go to the front TV axle.

[lukenick1]

Originally Posted by ALJO

yes it does and is listed in the brochure, but actual TW varies according to the accessories put on in the factory. And will go up when you start loading.

Sample; my empty listed TW was 540 lbs. added 2 batteries and 2- 30 lbs. propane bottles filled; filled 280 lbs. fresh water and front storage loaded. I went to 875 lbs. TW
With the WDH some will go to the front TV axle.

Ok thanks.....I have 2 propane tanks and 1 battery. No water in fresh tank so that will keep my weight down. Going to try to get to scales tomorrow if it's not raining.

[Rustic Eagle]

Originally Posted by lukenick1

Do either of these number include the tongue weight and if so, is it with full propane tanks and battery?....snip

If you are referring to the as-shipped UVW noted on the "yellow weight sticker" that's attached to the TT, then this UVW "includes" the weight of the LP tanks "filled" (even though they were shipped empty)...., it doesn't however include anything the RV dealer installed (i.e.; battery,etc.). The same UVW also includes the dry tongue weight.

If the RV dealer adds more then 100lbs (I believe that's the cut-off) to the TT they are required to attach an update to the "yellow sticker" (reduction in payload capacity).

The UVW noted on a brochure or web site normally doesn't include the weight of the LP tanks "filled" unless noted....., the dry tongue weight is included.

Your CAT scale results will be the most important weights.

Bob

[lukenick1]

Originally Posted by Rustic Eagle

If you are referring to the as-shipped UVW noted on the "yellow weight sticker" that's attached to the TT, then this UVW "includes" the weight of the LP tanks "filled" (even though they were shipped empty)...., it doesn't however include anything the RV dealer installed (i.e.; battery,etc.). The same UVW also includes the dry tongue weight.

If the RV dealer adds more then 100lbs (I believe that's the cut-off) to the TT they are required to attach an update to the "yellow sticker" (reduction in payload capacity).

The UVW noted on a brochure or web site normally doesn't include the weight of the LP tanks "filled" unless noted....., the dry tongue weight is included.

Your CAT scale results will be the most important weights.

Bob

Well that leaves me tons of loading room. Phew.....My yellow sticker says 4,475 and my tow rating is 7,200. That leaves me 2,600 to load with. All 4 of us in my family weigh a total of 480lbs. I do not load my trailer with a ton of stuff. I feel much more confident now. Phew

[wags999]

Originally Posted by lukenick1

Well that leaves me tons of loading room. Phew.....My yellow sticker says 4,475 and my tow rating is 7,200. That leaves me 2,600 to load with. All 4 of us in my family weigh a total of 480lbs. I do not load my trailer with a ton of stuff. I feel much more confident now. Phew

You also need to look at the Gross vehicle weight. includes the vehicle, tongue weight from trailer and all your passengers, cargo and fuel. You don't want your vehicle overloaded for sure. That is more typically the issue than the trailer itself. You should do three weights at the cat scale to get the full view.

Good Luck ! and enjoy !

[Rustic Eagle]

Originally Posted by lukenick1

Well that leaves me tons of loading room. Phew.....snip

As I mentioned, the CAT scale will tell the real weight story based on your TV/TT loading habits, and provide the most useful weight data.

Bob

CAT scale how-to: http://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f3...v-tt-3871.html

[Jmooney]

GVWR of the tow vehicle and the trailer are two different capacities, each needs to be respected.

The tow capacity of your tow vehicle is different than the GVWR rating of the tow vehicle as well.

GvRW minus curb weight equals capacity for passengers and gear in the tow vehicle and the tongue weight of the trailer

GVWR minus factory weight of the trailer equals capacity for gear in the trailer.

Total trailer weight loaded with gear ( the maximum GVWR of the trailer ) should not exceed the towing limit of the towners vehicle

Tongue weight is the downward weight on the back of the tow vehicle

[lukenick1]

Again, luckily my family of 4 weighs less than 500# total so that leaves us 1,000# of cargo which I doubt I would ever use. I'm going to the scale as soon as the rain stops.

[Jmooney]

I'm confused on why your family's weight is related the GVWR of the trailer

[canadiankid]

Originally Posted by lukenick1

Well that leaves me tons of loading room. Phew.....My yellow sticker says 4,475 and my tow rating is 7,200. That leaves me 2,600 to load with. All 4 of us in my family weigh a total of 480lbs. I do not load my trailer with a ton of stuff. I feel much more confident now. Phew

This post isn't necessarily accurate, your issue will likely be your vehicles GVWR. what is that number? What is your tow vehicle?

[lukenick1]

Originally Posted by Jmooney

I'm confused on why your family's weight is related the GVWR of the trailer

I was referring to the the truck's capacity. Someone made mention of not only being concerned about the TT GVWR but also the TV.

[lukenick1]

Originally Posted by canadiankid

This post isn't necessarily accurate, your issue will likely be your vehicles GVWR. what is that number? What is your tow vehicle?

TV is 2001 Tundra

[canadiankid]

Have you taken your truck to the scales?

[lukenick1]

Originally Posted by canadiankid

Have you taken your truck to the scales?

I will as soon as the rain stops! lol

[Jmooney]

So from that ID tag, the GVWR of the truck is 6010 lbs.

It doesn't list the curb weight, but let's say it's 5000lbs for example.

That means you have 1010 lbs of capacity.

Tongue weight of the trailer + gear in the truck + passenger weight should not exceed the 1010 capacity.

The towing capacity of the same truck may be in the 7000lb range. That means that the GVWR of the trailer should not exceed 7000lbs

Many folks also think that you should have room to spare for both of these numbers

[lukenick1]

Originally Posted by Jmooney

So from that ID tag, the GVWR of the truck is 6010 lbs.

It doesn't list the curb weight, but let's say it's 5000lbs for example.

That means you have 1010 lbs of capacity.

Tongue weight of the trailer + gear in the truck + passenger weight should not exceed the 1010 capacity.

The towing capacity of the same truck may be in the 7000lb range. That means that the GVWR of the trailer should not exceed 7000lbs

Many folks also think that you should have room to spare for both of these numbers

Curb weight according to nada guide is 4,518, but I will know more once I weigh it.