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05-13-2015, 05:32 PM
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WDH Bar Weight Rating?
Hello, my family and I are upgrading from a 17Z to a Jayflight SLX 264BHW and I am curious to know which weight bars to go with. With the 17Z we towed with a VW Routan (Rebadged Chrysler Town and Country) and had 550# bars on a Pro-Series WDH Setup and it towed quite well. That being said the yellow sticker on the new camper lists the weight at 4667#. My understanding of that is that the number is with full propane. Jayco's website gives the dry tongue weight of 510#. Safe to assume that as the trailer sits with full propane I'm looking at roughly 550# tongue weight? We don't plan on storing lead in the front storage compartment, nor are we going to travel with a full fresh water tank. In your opinions will 750# bars be enough? Or should I purchase 1000# bars? BTW the new tow vehicle is a 2015 GMC Sierra 1500 2wd Double Cab with the 4.3L (285hp, 305ft lb torque).
Thank you in advance, Justin
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05-13-2015, 05:43 PM
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Happy camping with your upgrade!
For the Jayflight SLX 264BHW you need at least the 1200 # WDH.
You will be more likely be between the 700 - 800 lbs TW when loaded.
The TV will do but you will not be happy with the performance
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05-13-2015, 06:21 PM
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You might want to even check on your trailer frame near the tongue. My unit is 5900# gross limit and it states not to use wdh over 1000# probably because it might be to hard on the frame. The equalizer choice for me was 600 or 1000 so i went with the 1000# because the 600# might be a little low at 10 to 15 percent tongue weight that is recommended. I even got an opinion from equalizer over the phone.
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05-13-2015, 10:40 PM
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The 2015 264BHW has a GVWR of 6,500lbs. The ideal loaded tongue weight for a 29ft TT would be in the 13% to 15% range..., thus under maximum loaded conditions (@ 6,500lbs) the recommended loaded tongue weight range would be 845lbs to 975lbs.
IMO go with a WDH rated at 1,000lbs, it will be ideal for 264BHW loaded weights under 6,500lbs as well.
Bob
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05-14-2015, 06:13 AM
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For our 264BHW we got installed at dealership the Equalizer 1000lb system. Dealer stated this would be more then adequate for our trailer in all conditions of the TT load range. And so far dealer is right, tows excellent even in high cross winds.
Larry J
2015 SLX 264BHW
2007 RAM 1500 5.7L 4x4
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05-14-2015, 06:22 AM
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I believe there is such thing as too much hitch for a trailer. Anything over 1000lbs for that trailer will be too much and quite hard on the frame. If I were you, I would go for 800lb bars if the hitch brand you're considering comes in that weight. If not, the 1000lbs would be OK but will be a bit harsher especially if you're loaded such that your tongue weight is significantly under 1000lb.
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05-14-2015, 06:24 AM
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I might also add that dealerships are notorious for selling you too light of a hitch. A lot of RV sales people are idiots that don't know a thing about what they are selling and just look at the published dry tongue weight of the unit (which we all know is a lie) and sell you a hitch based on that number.
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05-14-2015, 06:54 AM
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Have not heard anything prior regarding 'too much' equalization. Is there any valid documentation in that regard that can be provided? Like to read that.
Larry J
2015 SLX 264BHW
2007 RAM 1500 5.7L 4x4
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05-14-2015, 05:47 PM
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05-14-2015, 06:16 PM
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Weighed the truck tonite also with a full tank of fuel and everyone in the truck minus my wife. 5400# with a gvwr of 6900# so i should be several hundred pounds under the rating ready to camp. Thanks again! I will try to post pictures once we pick up the new camper this tuesday
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05-16-2015, 05:56 AM
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By adjusting the angle of the hitch head you can control how much torque you are applying with the bars at 6 chain links. Just because the bars are rated at 1000# doesn't mean you have to use all of it.
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05-16-2015, 09:34 AM
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After reading all this I checked on cost and a WDH is surprisingly affordable on Amazon. Although this itself is pretty heavy and puts more weight on the whole towed weight, they do improve towing over bumps.
WDH at Amazon
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05-16-2015, 11:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirkdaddy
After reading all this I checked on cost and a WDH is surprisingly affordable on Amazon. Although this itself is pretty heavy and puts more weight on the whole towed weight, they do improve towing over bumps.
WDH at Amazon
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The link posted for the Eaz Lift is half the price (and got great reviews) of the highly recommended Equalizer WDH. I wonder why. Because it's made in China maybe? We need to decide on one here soon.
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05-16-2015, 01:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Country_Mouse
The link posted for the Eaz Lift is half the price (and got great reviews) of the highly recommended Equalizer WDH. I wonder why. Because it's made in China maybe? We need to decide on one here soon.
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The Equalizer probably has built in sway control. That would explain the price difference.
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05-16-2015, 03:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WVDusty
The Equalizer probably has built in sway control. That would explain the price difference.
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That's what I thought too but description said it had it too. Unless I misunderstood something.
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05-16-2015, 03:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WVDusty
snip........ That would explain the price difference.
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Your correct, the "Equal-i-zer" brand WDH has integrated sway control thus doesn't require the separate friction sway control arm.
The Eaz-Lift WDH requires the separate friction sway control arm. Also, if the TT is longer then 25ft most standard WDH manufactures recommend an additional friction sway control arm on the opposite side.
WDH's with integrated sway control (Equal-i-zer, Reese Strait-Line, etc.) will provide enhanced TV handling should a sway event arise.
Bob
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