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Old 09-23-2016, 12:33 PM   #11
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Good tip, bankr63. I didn't know that info was on the door jam. However, now I'm totally freaked out. This is what it says, and it seems REALLY REALLY low for a seven passenger vehicle. Basically, that means seven occupants would need to average less than 164 lbs, and they wouldn't be able to bring luggage with them? I don't get it.

This changes my numbers a lot.

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Old 09-23-2016, 12:35 PM   #12
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Good tip, bankr63. I didn't know that info was on the door jam. However, not I'm a bit freaked out. This is what it says, and it seems REALLY REALLY low for a seven passenger vehicle. This changes my numbers a lot.

That's more in line w/ what I expected to see, to be honest. You want payload, you really want a truck, not a SUV.
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:02 PM   #13
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Well that shows the difference between ratings and reality. It is possible that you have a couple of hundred pounds of options on your Path (rear air or rear entertainment, sunroof?) that are eating into the capacity.


You are still up there with the average pickup truck. Those numbers you see online for Maximum Payload for the pickup trucks generally include a heavy payload option package. Without that option, payload capacities are generally not so generous and the same or less than your Path. After all, a half ton is only 1000 lbs.
It is really good that you are finding this out now, and are educated before you start loading up. BTW - there should be a second sticker nearby that will tell you what your front and rear GAWR's are. These are the numbers you need to watch.
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That's one of the selling points of the new aluminum F150s; they're supposed to give you lots more payload. I haven't seen any stickers from them mind you, but that's supposed to be the big draw.
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:52 PM   #15
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Well that shows the difference between ratings and reality. It is possible that you have a couple of hundred pounds of options on your Path (rear air or rear entertainment, sunroof?) that are eating into the capacity.
Well that's what's even weirder. I don't have any of those things. This is a relatively base Pathfinder. No sunroof, no rear entertainment, no upgraded sound system, no seat heater ... so on, and so on. The only thing I've got that I think might have been an option (I bought the PF used, so I'm not sure) was that it's 4WD.

I'm actually starting to wonder if this doesn't have something to do with how Nissan got the towing capacity up to 5,000 lbs, when most crossovers are more like 3,500 lbs.

Well, this is going to make packing rather interesting. The funny thing is that I'll have more cargo weight capacity in the RV than in the towing vehicle. I'll definitely have to keep an eye on what we pack and where we pack it. At this moment, I'm figuring I'll put the ice chest in the car, and other luggage in the RV.
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Just be careful and really think about this - don't get lulled into the shiny new camper. Trust me I've been there - pretty much the same situation.

Its not just the weight of your camper and your payload - it seems pretty clear to me that you're going to be running your tow vehicle to capacity as well as your trailer. That's two rigs at capacity. To say nothing of the tow experience. Its not just the weight behind the SUV, its the wind resistance that comes from pulling what amounts to the surface area of a barn door down the highway.

I'm willing to bet you'll trade out the SUV b/c of this. And once you do THAT - you'll get annoyed w/ the sacrifices in the X17z (cargo capacity probably bubbling to the top of the list very quickly). Then you'll end up w/ a bigger truck that begs for a 'proper' trailer.

This is how/why I said it would have been WAY cheaper in the long run for me to get the X19h from the get-go. I could have put more in IT, saving the payload on my tow vehicle, and likely had a very similar 'feel' behind the steering wheel.

But no, I bought the x17z, lamented my cargo capacities, bought a truck, sold the X17z b/c we were gong to order a bigger trailer, but now we have a motorhome ....

Sometimes I feel like I should have stuck w/ the tent !!!

*nah*

PS no longer have the truck - don't need it.
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That's more in line w/ what I expected to see, to be honest. You want payload, you really want a truck, not a SUV.
Yes, me too. It's why I bought a 1/2 ton.
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Thanks to everyone for the opinions and the info. This RV is still very doable for me. It will just be a matter of how to pack the gear.
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In reading the thread title, I thought this thread was going to be a question about these guys, (No Kidding, I really did):

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In reading the thread title, I thought this thread was going to be a question about these guys, (No Kidding, I really did):

Mine too. Guess we must be old(er).
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