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Old 08-12-2012, 08:20 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by shadet View Post
I pull a X20E with my 04 pilot. After market hitch and tranny cooler, WDH, and sway bar...no problems at all. Never get over 3500 rpm and drive in D3. It actually feels better behind me than my popup did without the extra equipment. To each his own...
What is the tow capacity on the 04 pilot? WE have an '11 MDX that is 5000# and I am looking at an X20E as well, but concerned about the weight. Would definitely get a WD and sway bar.


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Old 08-12-2012, 10:07 AM   #12
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Just remember that real TRUCKS have more then 5 lug nuts per tire.....

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Old 08-12-2012, 11:31 AM   #13
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Just remember that real TRUCKS have more then 5 lug nuts per tire.....
And real trucks dont get 20 miles per gallon the 95% of the time you aren't towing anything.
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:27 AM   #14
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The goverment say's they can and thier working life will far exceed the front wheel drive V6 TV'S
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:22 AM   #15
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So, what did you guys decide? Did you see that Jayco just came out with the X17A. The layout is a bit different and looks really nice.
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:06 AM   #16
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We are still working on a choice, we think now with it as late in the year as it is, we are going to wait for the RV show in pittsburgh and make a decison in the spring. As of today we are still leaning at the X17's, but upon talking to Honda believe that with careful consideration to packing weights can pull the X19. And we might just upgrade into a beefier TV and jump on the 19 for the couple extra feet.

Thanks to everyone for your feedback it was great hearing forom you all.
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Old 07-13-2013, 04:24 PM   #17
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This may be a little late for the thread, but we just purchased a Swift 185RB and tow with a 2013 2wd Honda Pilot. Had the Pilot upgraded with the transmission cooler as recommended by Honda. This gives the Pilot a max 3500 gvw which matches the Swift specs. Have been on two trips so far with some good climbs and had no problems with power or overheating. No wdh is required. Have a sway bar, but these trips did not seem to require it. Last 284 miles experienced 13.8 mpg on 101 from Paso Robles through LA.
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:30 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by 19H F250 View Post
The goverment say's they can and thier working life will far exceed the front wheel drive V6 TV'S
My 5.4 equipped Expedition struggles to beat 15 mpg running empty. After filling the 108 litre gas tank at $1.52/ litre yesterday that Pilot is looking really good.
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Old 11-09-2013, 02:14 PM   #19
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2013 Honda 4WD Pilot without weight distribution hitch.

I have not yet pulled with my 2013, 4WD Pilot but do intend to pull the pending delivery of our 2014 X17A. My owners manual states that Honda does not recommend using a weight distribution hitch.

I quote the book "A weight distribution hitch is not recommended for your vehicle. An improperly adjusted weight distribution hitch may reduce handling, stability, and braking performance". This surprised me, but not my dealer who did strongly recommend an anti sway device.

I'm curious to learn if this is a recent statement from honda and if others here pull without a wdh and how they rate the experience. Our first pull will be about 250 miles from the dealership with a Reese friction anti sway device but without a wdh. I'm hoping it to be a comfortable, safe drive.

The 2013 4WD pilot with two passengers is rated to tow 4500 lbs with 450 lbs of tongue weight. Jayco puts the X17A at 2795 lbs dry with 360 lbs at the tongue. I calculate actual weight will be around 3700 lbs with 370 at the ball. Which puts me at 82% of maximums recommended. As an engineer, I don't like to push the envelope so mathematically I'm expecting good results. We shall see.

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We pull a X17Z with a Mazda CX9. We have had her out twice and so far so good! We did install a WDH with sway bars and naturally a brake controller. We do have the a tow package on the CX9 (factory) thank goodness or we couldn't pull a lawn mover LOL. We do watch everything that goes into that trailer to the point if I buy a can opener, weight plays a factor in the purchase! haha

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