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Old 10-06-2012, 06:57 AM   #1
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We have a popup, gonna take the next step to the hybrid, Joined because we plan to buy a X17A, Z or a x18d, and looking for opinions, tow vehicle, etc. Heard alot of good about Jayco, and like the looks of the Jaycos we have seen onlind
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Welcome to the JOF, jstor1. I personally am not too familiar with hybrids, having had several TTs and now a 5er, but there are a lot of folks on this forum with good experience and advice on hybrids. Just wanted to welcome you, and hope that you post often. Enjoy your new unit when you decide on one.
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We have a popup, gonna take the next step to the hybrid, Joined because we plan to buy a X17A, Z or a x18d, and looking for opinions, tow vehicle, etc. Heard alot of good about Jayco, and like the looks of the Jaycos we have seen onlind
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We used to have a 2010 17z we bought used, it was excellent. Just traded it in for a 19h. The 17z was too small for us with 2 small boys. How many are in your family, maybe if you have a boy and girl 18d is better but we liked the double frig and more counter space and stove not against a wall with the 19h. We used it once so far and everything is very convenient, also wanted a 2012 model because in the 2013's they made the shower stall very shallow so it would be easy to get water on floor. 19h also has a 2 foot wider awning, got the electric one, so much easier. We towed both models with a 1500 Silverado, be sure to get sway bars for either size. Also you can put more weight in a 19h vs. 18d or 17z that was another problem we were having with 17z. I have searched hybrids like crazy before buying, so if you have any other questions, I probably would know. Good luck, you will love camping so much more with an upgrade, a lot less work and more comfort.
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have a Ford Explorer, from another thread someone suggested the 17 for use with the explorer, just have one daughter, and we have been packing light, at some point, we are going to upgrade the vehicle, a Chevy/GMC is high on the list. thanks for the input
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We have a 17Z and downsized from a Class A motorhome two years ago. Had plenty of room for two adults and two teenagers. With the Jayco 17 series hybrids you will need to carry some items in your tow vehicle due to the light load carrying capacity, about 500 lbs. This is not a big obstacle, just takes some planning.

I am sure if I had started with the 17Z I'd be thinking about "something bigger" but bigger is not always better. We made the move with the idea of going as light and lean as possible and the 17Z has worked out well for us.

The light weight of the Jayco 17 hybrids gives you alot of tow vehicle options, just remember a pickup truck will likely require a cap or hard cover to carry extra stuff safe, dry and secure.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:50 PM   #6
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I did a whole year of shopping on different hybrids out there and ended up with a Jayco. I think they have the best floor plans for what we wanted and had the best build quality. The Roos are decent, but I did not like the floor plans.
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Old 10-08-2012, 07:43 AM   #7
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I have a 17A and like it over the z for 2 main reasons. 1) The dinette - We eat outside for every meal, so as soon as we arrive, we take the table out, and then we have a nice place for people to sit on the dinette benches. 2) The door- We didn't like walking in the door to the HTT and facing a wall immediately. We are in and out a lot, especially the kids, so the door is a congested area. We much prefer the door in the front and walking into "the living room".
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jstor1-- You can tow the tt's you listed with just about anything, but think about wind resistance, hills, extra cargo ( fire wood etc),& safer towing & you should look at 1/2 ton pickups with tow packages. The Ford ecoboast has become a popular tv & will allow for "growth" in tt's. Just my $.02 Larry
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We have a popup, gonna take the next step to the hybrid, Joined because we plan to buy a X17A, Z or a x18d, and looking for opinions, tow vehicle, etc. Heard alot of good about Jayco, and like the looks of the Jaycos we have seen onlind
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We are new to owning a TT also. We graduated from a tent to a new 2013 Jayco X19H. It's a hybrid that weighs around 3600 pounds dry. We wanted bigger, but I wasn't about to buy a bigger tow vehicle to tow a TT that I may only get to use 4 or 5 times a year, with gas prices hovering around $4 a gallon. Long story short is this: We have a 2013 Ford Explorer w/ V-6 and AWD, and it came equipped from the factory with a Class 3 towing package. It tows our 2013 Jayco Hybrid with no problem. I estimate that for a week-long trip, we carry around 700 pounds of cargo. This puts our weight at around 4300 pounds--I will not tow a TT full of water. The RV dealer installed an electric trailer brake, anti-sway bars, and a weight distribution hitch. I wouldn't pull much more weight with our Explorer. Hope this helps, and good luck. We absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE our Jayco.
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Old 10-08-2012, 08:41 PM   #10
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Thanks for all the input, found a 2010 GMC Sierra online I love, makes my options wide open and easy to take bikes
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Thanks for all the input, found a 2010 GMC Sierra online I love, makes my options wide open and easy to take bikes
Looks like you are heading towards my setup. Good combination.
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When we was looking to get some hard walls from having our OFF-ROAD POPUP all this time I really liked the idea that hybrid tent bed ideas folded down from the top instead of being pulled out liked on the popup. This opens up a whole bunch of room inside the trailer. You can elect to only use one tent bed end and the other end folded up still doesn't take away any of your inside room. When you stop over at a Walmart or similar place you can move aorund freely inside the trailer and sleep on the pulled out couch.

I read alot about possible leaks around the very large door for the bed ends and it seems to be a concern area for some people. They say the door may warp easy being as large as they are and this may cause some water leaks to deal with. I would have to watch that pretty close...

On the truck you mentioned... The best setup is to get the rear end ratio being the middle one offered. Not a Chevy man but on the Fords this would be the 3:73 gear ratio that gives you the best gas mileage for the best power transfer. The 3:55 gears gives the best gas mileage but the worse power transfer. the 4:10 ratio gives you the best power transfer but the worse gas mileage...

Going from the POPUP with real good gas mileage is really going to suffer when you start pulling the travel trailers... My 2010 5.4 gas F150 gets around 19-21MPG pulling my 4200lb POPUP and would probably drop down to 9-11MPG pulling a 5000-6000lb high wall trailer. The wind drag is the killer.

Just something to think about...
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On the truck you mentioned... The best setup is to get the rear end ratio being the middle one offered. Not a Chevy man but on the Fords this would be the 3:73 gear ratio that gives you the best gas mileage for the best power transfer. The 3:55 gears gives the best gas mileage but the worse power transfer. the 4:10 ratio gives you the best power transfer but the worse gas mileage...
There is one huge problem with the above .... you forgot my rear axle ratio - 3.08. That gives the best gas mileage and the max tow rating is 7000# -- more than enough for an X17Z. My RV is 3800# loaded and the truck pulls it almost as if it was not there. If the truck is a daily driver (as in my case) then this is probably the best rear axle ratio to get, as one typically tows infrequently throughout the year. As for fuel economy -- I typically get 17 mpg mixed city / freeway and it is rated for 22 mpg on the highway. Best I ever got was 25 mpg on soem back roadds in Louisiana doing about 60 mph. Towing the 3800# 17Z, I get a tad over 10 mpg.
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Me agrees with what was being said - If you can safely tow the load with the smallest gear ratio then go for it... That will give you the best gas mileage... I have just always picked the middle gear ratio which give me the best of both worlds... Coming down the big long grade hills is just as big a problem as being able to go up them.
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Does it have a tow package ? Larry
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Who is your question directed to?
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Should have been directed to jstor1 reguarding the GMC they found. Larry
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Jstor1, I really like our hybrid. We looked fairly closely at the 17Z. My recommendation is think about how you are going to use it, and who will be with you. Then think about what stuff you will want to bring with you and where you will store all those items.

For us, I did not want to live out of duffle bags. I wanted to be able to put our stuff away and have it out of sight. I also did not want to have to load the TV every time we want to go. For us the 23B fit our families need. Storage for everything, dual axle, plenty of room to sleep if we choose not to open the bunk ends.

Again think about how you are going to use the TT. Personally, if you question which unit to buy, I would look at a few more.

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Dealer assures me, not gonna buy without a tow package
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