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Old 03-28-2015, 07:05 AM   #61
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Is that the empty or max weight of the TT? Add the clothes, food, and other nessesities to the trailer on the day of camping, and that weight will easily reach over the 5000 lb mark.
4950# is the max weight of the 23B. Empty weight is around 4200#
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Old 03-29-2015, 07:21 AM   #62
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We have an v6 4Runner and a x20e.
The 4Runner pulls the trailer like it's not there, that being said we live in the flat lands and I cannot speak for mountains. We are within our tow limits by manf.
The x20e had a movable ottoman that makes it so you do not have to jump over or climb onto the dinette bench to get into the front bunk.
We chose the back bunk because it's the most secluded from the rest of the camper.
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Old 03-29-2015, 09:30 AM   #63
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The wife and I had similar reservations on the dinette in front of the bunk after many years and miles with a popup. We went to an RV show in 2011 and saw the x23j. We got excited to see the dinette to the side and were thrilled but not ready to buy. The following year we went again and found the same dealer and and a hybrid but the dinette was back in front of the bunk. We were greatly disappointed. After talking to the dealer, one of them realized that they would be having a x23j coming in in trade. A few months later they called when it came in. We checked it out and it was in mint condition. We decided to buy and didn't haggle with the price because it was what we wanted. (Probably paid too much) The dealer was very accommodating and told us he would give us whatever we needed to get camping that summer. He was convinced that my wife's 6 cyc. trailblazer could tow it. After some research, I was not comfortable with the idea and thought my 8cyc f150 would be a better fit. Called the dealer and stated my concerns but the pu didn't have a hitch. He had us come in early on pick up day so they could install a hitch and brake controller at no charge. Even threw in some towing mirrors. We are still very happy with our decision. The p.u. tows it well, even with the small v8 4.6L engine. If we decide to turtle, we know the dinette drops into a bed that we can both snuggle up to in. Unfortunately, Jayco stopped making the floorplan so to find it you may have to buy used. Hope you are as lucky as we were.
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just picked up the 2015 x23b didnt know it already had LED lights inside and out saves me some cash to spend in other areas
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Old 04-09-2015, 01:30 PM   #65
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Congratulations!

I think that's the way all the new Jaycos come now.
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Old 04-14-2015, 07:38 PM   #66
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just picked up the 2015 x23b didnt know it already had LED lights inside and out saves me some cash to spend in other areas
Congrats...Picked up our x23b couple weeks back and had our first trip out last weekend ..It was great..
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Old 01-03-2018, 03:41 PM   #67
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pulling my 2017 x23b with a 2010 Chevy Traverse LTZ with tow pac. No problem. Runs all day at 2000-2300 rpm / 9 mpg. WDH with active sway
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Old 04-30-2018, 07:09 AM   #68
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My wife and I periodically toy with the idea of moving from a 1007 PUP to a hybrid, but only if it was a substantial change in size, like the 20E or 23B, with a slide-out.

We really hate the 1007's U-shaped dinette because it's in front of the front, king-size bed and forces us to climb over to get into bed. That experience gives us a negative vibe on the 20E or 23B. Granted, our U-dinette has a pole with a table top, not an independent table that can be slid out of the way.

That said, since both beds are queens, we figure we'd probably end up in the back. That would leave the guests (expected to be our young daughter and friend or occasionally our older daughters) with crawling over the dinette. So maybe it's not a big deal.

We realize the 23B is a very popular layout. Are we the only ones with this objection?

We see the advance of having the U adjacent to the sofa. With a large group and, say, rain outside, it could be a nice conversation and TV watching setup.

Lastly, is anyone towing a 20E or 23B with anything less than a 1/2t-ton truck, Tahoe, Expedition, Sequoia or equivalent? We'd love to stay with a Traverse/Durango/Explorer but are thinking that's not enough TV for a 20E or 23B.
I tow with my 2010 Traverse LTZ with tow package
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We tow ours with a Trailblazer. Wouldn't recommend this set up in the mountains, but works just fine in Ohio and western PA.Click image for larger version

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We towed our X23B (‘13) with an ‘03 Expedition 5.4L and it was adequate, but just barely. The issue was payload, specifically the Rear GAWR. IMHO that HTT is in 1/2T territory.
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New to us, 2016 X23B

New to us, we just bought a used 2016 X23B and we towed it a 2013 Ford Explorer but after seeing that the GCVW of the TT and the Explorer was at 10,000lbs. And the Explorer can only tow 5,000lbs and the TT Maxed That out. With being maxed out on the Explorer and the TT we bought a Durango with a higher tow capacity and an all around better towing capabilities. (Class IV hitch, self leveling rear shocks, better engine cooling system, and a few other things).

Can’t wait to camp.
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We bought a 2012 23B and tow it with a 2002 GMC Yukon. Just had it out for the first time and was very pleased. I thought at first I would not like the wrap around couch dining area, but since you can move the table around, it really works out well.
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Old 09-26-2018, 09:20 AM   #73
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My wife and I periodically toy with the idea of moving from a 1007 PUP to a hybrid, but only if it was a substantial change in size, like the 20E or 23B, with a slide-out.

We really hate the 1007's U-shaped dinette because it's in front of the front, king-size bed and forces us to climb over to get into bed. That experience gives us a negative vibe on the 20E or 23B. Granted, our U-dinette has a pole with a table top, not an independent table that can be slid out of the way.

That said, since both beds are queens, we figure we'd probably end up in the back. That would leave the guests (expected to be our young daughter and friend or occasionally our older daughters) with crawling over the dinette. So maybe it's not a big deal.

We realize the 23B is a very popular layout. Are we the only ones with this objection?

We see the advance of having the U adjacent to the sofa. With a large group and, say, rain outside, it could be a nice conversation and TV watching setup.

Lastly, is anyone towing a 20E or 23B with anything less than a 1/2t-ton truck, Tahoe, Expedition, Sequoia or equivalent? We'd love to stay with a Traverse/Durango/Explorer but are thinking that's not enough TV for a 20E or 23B.
We sleep in the back bunk, but our son and his wife did not find it that big of a problem. We pull our 2009 23B with a Nissan xterra and do not have any issues. Just make sure your vehicle has the required towing capacity rating.
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Old 09-26-2018, 11:54 AM   #74
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Smile Really like it!

We initially thought we wouldn’t like the layout of the X23B .
In fact, I was seriously thinking of driving out of state to purchase a Rockwood Roo, along the same length as the Jayco.
However, since we have been camping with the Jayco, it works for us.
When it is just my wife and I, we move the table over in front of the slide out couch. We even eat there. Leaving it there at night, we sleep in the front bunk. So if we have to get out of bed, no issue with the table.
And when the grandkids come , everyone can sit around in the circular couch and play games.
Very pleased with layout now.
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Old 10-05-2018, 03:14 PM   #75
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towing my 2016 x23b

So we have 11 trips completed 45 nights in all, not sure how many miles. As noted we are close to the edge on the Traverse GCWR with about 2-300 lbs remaining when fully loaded. The car however does great, I average 9 mpg and I travel at 63 mph and stay around 2200-2700 rpm. Haven't gone through any mountains, not sure how I feel about that. but this combo is working for us.
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